Two new quite ominous rulings in the US and the UK have demonstrated once again that the homosexual mafia will use the heavy hand of the law to enforce their iron-clad will on everyone, whether they like it or not. Until everyone submits to their agenda, they will not stop the war they have declared against faith, family and freedom.
To ensure that everyone bows down before their militant social engineering, they will oppose anyone and anything that gets in their way. And like a trusty lapdog, they have the secular state happily coming along to do their bidding. All over the West laws are being passed which grant special rights to homosexuals while taking away rights from everyone else.
Worst of all, if you are a poor young person who wants to be rid of unwanted homosexual feelings, laws are now being passed saying no you cannot – you must stay trapped in that lifestyle whether you like it or not. The social engineers are banning those who wish to offer their services here, forcing countless youth into a life of misery.
Consider what the social totalitarians in California have just done. A bill has just been passed making it illegal to offer help to youth wanting to get out of a dangerous and destructive lifestyle. As one report explains: “A bill that was described as a deliberate ‘attack on parental rights’ by its sponsor has been signed into law in California. On Sunday, Governor Jerry Brown signed into law a bill banning sexual orientation change therapy for minors. It is set to go into effect on January 1, 2013.
“In response, the pro-family law firm Liberty Counsel has said it is filing a lawsuit on behalf of counselors, parents and their minor children, and the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) against the legislation. In signing the bill, Gov. Brown said that sexual orientation change therapy ‘will now be relegated to the dustbin of quackery’.”
Never mind the thousands upon thousands of people who have been set free from this dangerous lifestyle. Never mind those many ex-homosexuals who have gone on to heterosexual marriage and children. The dictators in California have just decreed that such people are persona non grata.
The article continues, “Critics such as Staver say such broad language will prohibit any counseling that does not affirm and encourage experimentation with or acceptance of same-sex attractions, regardless of whether those feelings and attractions are unwanted by the counselee.
“While the bill makes it an ethical violation for any counselor or therapist to engage in it, opponents have argued that if the counselor does not provide the client with such counseling, or at least a referral, upon request, the counselor will also violate their licensing ethical code. ‘We are filing on behalf of mental health professionals who find themselves in a catch-22,’ Staver said. ‘This law undermines parental rights,’ Staver added. ‘Mental health decisions should be left to the patient, the parents, and the counselors – not to the government to license one viewpoint’.”
And in the UK we have more of this heavy-handed militancy taking place against those who seek to be released from their unwanted lifestyle. Consider this news report: “Britain’s largest professional body of psychotherapists has warned its members against attempting to ‘convert’ gay people, after discovering practitioners were still offering the ‘treatment’.
“The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy has notified its 30,000 members of the formal change in policy, advising them that being homosexual is not a mental disorder. Emphasising World Health Organisation policy which states that therapies aimed at ‘curing’ homosexuality can cause severe mental and physical damage, it says there is ‘no scientific, rational or ethical reason to treat people who identify within a range of human sexualities any differently from those who identify solely as heterosexual’.
“In a letter sent to members the BACP said it ‘opposes any psychological treatment such as “reparative’” or “conversion” therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality is a mental disorder, or based on the premise that the client/patient should change his/her sexuality.’ The formal statement of policy followed the decision to strike off Lesley Pilkington, a Christian psychotherapist, for offering to ‘convert’ an undercover journalist. An appeal against the decision was rejected in May.”
Notice how highly these eggheads and militants value choice and freedom – not. It does not matter if a client comes in pleading for some help here, he or she will just not get it, because the gaystapo have outlawed real help. They would rather have people stay in their wretched condition and suffer than have the right to opt out of it.
So successful have the homosexual militants been in enlisting the state to enforce their bidding, that there really is only one thing left on the agenda it seems: how soon before laws are passed making homosexuality compulsory for everyone?
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Because of the pernicious lie that homosexuality is 100% genetically caused like skin colour – with virtually no scientific evidence to support that – it is now believed by those in power that it is harmful for a man to start thinking that it might be better for him to ignore his homosexual feelings and come to realisation that his body actually testifies against those feelings – his body is hardwired for a female whether he likes it or not.
Basically, according to Brown et al. it is “quackery” for a man to think he is a man or a woman to think she is a woman and that they are only sexually compatible with the opposite sex. Even as he himself – along with everybody else in the human race – has a mother and father. What a buffoon!
Seriously, the idea that homosexuality has majority genetic component – and that this is a lie – must be at the core of every counterargument from now on. Perhaps this quote from Harvard University activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen from 1989 needs to be spread far and wide:
We are talking about propaganda.” “The public should be persuaded that gays are victims of circumstance, that they no more chose their sexual orientation than they did, say, their height, skin color, talents, or limitations. (We argue that, for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been ‘born gay’??even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood and early adolescence.)”
Here, the authors admit that human sexuality “seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors,” yet they urge readers to abandon the truth for “practical purposes,” i.e. furthering “The Gay Agenda.” The propagandists could not have been clearer about their plan to deceive Americans.
Now this kind of quote is not in isolation, but it shows just how deliberate and insidious this duping of the population has been.
Of course, if homosexuality is mostly about “predispositions and environmental factors”, it will not be inherently ‘dangerous’ to get people to walk away from it – especially if they want to themselves! I don’t know about others, but personally I consider forcing people to stay in an inherently infertile and unhealthy lifestyle is itself dangerous. I wonder if part of the case against this nefarious idea can be to inform any government that wants to try this on that they may be placing themselves at risk of future legal action and compensation claims if as a result of their legislation people were unable to find the help they themselves wanted and that shortened their lives as a result.
This isn’t just about it being an attack on the family, this is an attack on the freedom for self-determination – that any person can live as they want if it has no bearing on anybody else. Nobody is forcing anybody to see someone if they want to continue to live homosexually. It is that simple.
Perhaps that stupid question that activists give you from time to time can be reworked:
“How does it affect you if a psychologist or counsellor exists to help people walk away from homosexuality? You don’t have to see them!”
I met Lesley Pilkington in London back in February this year. A lovely woman with a wonderful gentle spirit. I am aghast at what has happened to her. I read online of one guy who refuses to allow any conversation on homosexuality to move past the the ‘born gay’ assumption and consistently repeats “Show me the genes!” I like the strategy; I’m sick of the fact the lie has managed to live this long.
Mark Rabich
Is the next retrograde step going to be to ban all such behaviour modification programs so that those in jail are not allowed to be treated for their drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, abusive behaviour etc. Are we all never to be allowed to improve our selves. Does no one study history and the conditions in society that prevailed before the collapse of the Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilisations?
Patricia Rogers
Imaginary conversation:
“Madam would you like your little boy or girl to become gay?”
“Oh yes; I just want!”
Well maybe the politically correct side of her brain might say that, but the other side is saying, “I don’t want my son to die of AIDs, HIV and a host of other Sexually transmitted diseases.”
Listen to what Earl of Arran said in the House of Lords in 1967 when homosexuality was made legal.
“My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass. This is a little occasion, and perhaps I may say a few things. When we first debated these affairs—and how long ago it seems!—I said that your Lordships had it in your power to remove fear from the hearts of men. This you have done. It was this House which gave the lead. Because of the Bill now to be enacted, perhaps a million human beings will be able to live in greater peace. I find this an awesome and marvellous thing. The late Oscar Wilde, on his release from Reading Gaol, wrote to a friend: ‘Yes, we shall win in the end; but the road will be long and red with monstrous martyrdoms.”.’ My Lords, Mr. Wilde was right: the road has been long and the martyrdoms many, monstrous and bloody. Today, please God! sees the end of that road.
I ask one thing and I ask it earnestly. I ask those who have, as it were, been in bondage and for whom the prison doors are now open to show their thanks by comporting themselves quietly and with dignity. This is no occasion for jubilation; certainly not for celebration. Any form of ostentatious behaviour; now or in the future, any form of public flaunting, would be utterly distasteful and would, I believe, make the sponsors of the Bill regret that they have done what they have done. Homosexuals must continue to remember that while there may be nothing bad in being a homosexual, there is certainly nothing good. Lest the opponents of the Bill think that a new freedom, a new privileged class, has been created, let me remind them that no amount of legislation will prevent homosexuals from being the subject of dislike and derision, or at best of pity. We shall always, I fear, resent the odd man out. That is their burden for all time, and they must shoulder it like men—for men they are.
Dear Bill,
As a psychologist I have observed this movement making its way across the Western world. Lesley Pilkington’s case filled me with despair because here was a therapist duped by a activist-journalist that any other professional body would have ruled as vexatious. Yet she lost her livelihood and a great deal of money because of his duplicitous behaviour. How long before this type of case happens in Australia?
Already the Aust Psych Society has fully thrown its support behind the same-sex marriage agenda on the most specious of all grounds. I resigned my membership because of its pathetic attempt to justify homosexual marriage on psychological wellbeing grounds!
Our society has at its core a contradiction between those who believe an order exists beyond humanity (–a divinely given order– I would say) and those who believe that the only order that exists is within human hearts. The latter world and life view began in the late18thC and is gradually extending its dominance over all of human life rather like an octopus: now the media, business, government, schools and even some churches are being drawn into its deadly ambit.
My point is that this idolatrous world view has been percolating for centuries now and we are seeing a neo-Romanticism now being more fully manifested with all its ugly features. Our only weapons against this onslaught are the weapons of prayer, fasting, the Word of God and societal action such as has been advocated by this website which knows that the fight is not ultimately in the seen world but in the heavenly realms.
Ian Ridgway
I do apologise for not presenting Lesley Pilkington’s interview with Peter Tatchell on BBC News Hour, 2nd October, 13.14p.m GMT properly.
Hopefully this link will work but I believe it lasts only about a week. Listen whilst it still lasts.
The irony is that if homosexuality really was 100% genetic, nearly all babies with the gene would be aborted. Pope Paul V1 was right in 1968 when he said that contraception would lead to a huge increase in homosexuality. Sex is the new food – people think they’ll die if they’re not doing it, and food is the new sex – ‘naughty’ ‘wicked’ ‘sinful’ and always on TV. Jesus grew up surrounded by Graeco-Roman culture, the most homophilic in history, but it was the chastity of the first Christians that astonished and won over the pagans.
Nina Blondel
Mark, I wish to comment on your brilliant repost to the gaymafia above, “How does it affect you if a psychologist or counsellor exists to help people walk away from homosexuality? You don’t have to see them!”
But it will be as though you had sai to the Nazi Germans “If you don’t like living in the free world, where people can be self-determining, don’t go to Britain or America.”
Whereas you comment makes perfect sense in a world where people are free to make their own choices, this does not work in a tyrannical regime where our every thought, emotion and choice are ruthlessly controlled by gay narcissists. The gaystapo, frequently spout the mantra, “If you don’t like same-sex marriage, don’t marry someone of the same sex.” But what they really mean is that whilst you don’t have to marry someone of the same sex, you certainly won’t be able to marry anyone of the opposite sex either, because any church or marriage registrar who refuse to conduct gay marriage will be taken out of the public space.
Their deeply cynical and cruel statement is equivalent to the following:
“If you don’t like slavery, don’t keep slaves
If you don’t like rape, don’t rape anyone
If you don’t like overpaid bankers, don’t become an overpaid banker
… and so on.” http://ccfather.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/empty-rhetoric.html
Finally this BBC clip, showing how the determination to cleanse society of any last Christian serving in society is writ large. The extraordinary thing in this clip is that those pushing for this narcissistic tyranny not gay, whilst the man championing freedom is in fact gay, who understands what is at stake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctrua5c-AYU
David Skinner, UK
Behind most gay man there’s a domineering mother or worse still, a molester. Given these factors and considering the single parent, mainly mothers, my worst fears could be becoming true.They claim 10 per cent of the population is gay, maybe that’s a forecast.
God loves gay people yes, but it’s not something I would wish on anyone.
Daniel Kempton
In 1649, a lawyer, by the name of John Cooke wrote the brief that was used to charge King Charles 1st of treason and attempting to wage war on the people of Britain:
“To the end that no chief officer or magistrate may hereafter presume traitorously or maliciously to imagine or contrive the enslaving or destroying of the English nation, and expect impunity for so doing….”
The British government and the establishment at every level have declared war on the British people and the intention of enslaving them in sexual addictions
The problem here Bill is the self-destruction of Exodus, which has gone from being a reputable organisation giving much needed help to mentally ill patients; to now when its leaders themselves declare you can’t cure homosexuality, which is what Alan Chambers has come out with.
Together we stand, divided we fall. As soon as organisations like Exodus weaken the gay agenda strengthens.
I’m not sure how much mileage there is in coercing people for their own good but surely we have to take action now before it’s too late, and our attempts to bring gays to repentance and Christ are outlawed?
Nick Blanchard
Thanks Nick
Yes it is bad news indeed about Alan. But we must press on nonetheless. And of course offering help to those who really want help is not about coercing anyone. It should only be available to those who want out.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Hi Bill
Thank you for your great blog and for your recent article ‘you must remain trapped in your lifestyle’ (2/10/12) about which I am in agreement.
However there is just one statement I would like to correct as it is misleading as I am the therapist in question.
the article says ‘the formal statement of policy followed the decision to strike off Lesley Pilkington, a Christian psychotherapist, for offering to ‘convert’ an undercover journalist.’
In fact the homosexual journalist in question came up to me at a Judeo-Christian conference in London in 2009 put on by NARTH and Anglican Mainstream (and others) and said he was depressed and unhappy with his same sex attraction and wanted help to be heterosexual.
We only work with those who are like this, distressed about their sexuality, and who request help from us. We had a brief chat in which I told him I work in this area as a biblical christian counsellor (qualified) even though I am also an accredited member of BACP (as I was then). He told me that was exactly what he wanted as he too was a christian. we even talked about the HS and he said he knew and understood that.
I told him that we would have an initial session and after that he could decide if the way i worked was right for him or not. If not then i would refer him onto other therapists who would be gay affirming; I am gender affirming which is different
I work as a christian in this area as there is a great deal of destructiveness because of their lifestyle and pain from past and present toxic relationships.
I have gone into some detail here to explain how different it is what we actually do; ie we don’t ‘offer to convert’ anyone. That is what those who condemn us say. The therapy ( actually 2 sessions) was voluntarily entered into after he asked me for help, all the while lying about his intentions. And of course he was never a client, so never entered into a therapeutic relationship, as he only wanted to expose me and close me down.
And he has been quiet successful if you read the latest from BACP my previous professional body. However I am now a member of the ACC (Association of Christian Counsellors) so am more free to talk about biblical truths.
Lesley Pilkington, UK
Thanks for that Lesley. Keep up your great work – we are behind you.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
PS I want to add that ‘they’ will never silence me from talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and I will continue to contend for the faith as I believe all those who follow Jesus are called to this, no matter the cost. Actually I am encouraged because as it gets darker in our nations our light of the truth of the gospel will be all the more bright and continue to give hope.
Lesley Pilkington, UK
Good on you Lesley, I wish I was more like you!
Steve Davis
David, your imaginary conversation in your earlier post made me think of those Muslim mothers who are being brainwashed into “desiring their children to become suicide bombers.”
It is scary to think how well brainwashing can work if a person does not have an anchor firmly rooted in the truth. It is hard for us westerners to understand, but it just makes me think sadly that maybe your imaginary conversation is not quite so imaginary after all, if God in His mercy does not intervene soon.
May we speak and live the truth wherever we go with much godly zeal
Many blessings
Ursula Bennett
Because of the pernicious lie that homosexuality is 100% genetically caused like skin colour – with virtually no scientific evidence to support that – it is now believed by those in power that it is harmful for a man to start thinking that it might be better for him to ignore his homosexual feelings and come to realisation that his body actually testifies against those feelings – his body is hardwired for a female whether he likes it or not.
Basically, according to Brown et al. it is “quackery” for a man to think he is a man or a woman to think she is a woman and that they are only sexually compatible with the opposite sex. Even as he himself – along with everybody else in the human race – has a mother and father. What a buffoon!
Seriously, the idea that homosexuality has majority genetic component – and that this is a lie – must be at the core of every counterargument from now on. Perhaps this quote from Harvard University activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen from 1989 needs to be spread far and wide:
Now this kind of quote is not in isolation, but it shows just how deliberate and insidious this duping of the population has been.
Of course, if homosexuality is mostly about “predispositions and environmental factors”, it will not be inherently ‘dangerous’ to get people to walk away from it – especially if they want to themselves! I don’t know about others, but personally I consider forcing people to stay in an inherently infertile and unhealthy lifestyle is itself dangerous. I wonder if part of the case against this nefarious idea can be to inform any government that wants to try this on that they may be placing themselves at risk of future legal action and compensation claims if as a result of their legislation people were unable to find the help they themselves wanted and that shortened their lives as a result.
This isn’t just about it being an attack on the family, this is an attack on the freedom for self-determination – that any person can live as they want if it has no bearing on anybody else. Nobody is forcing anybody to see someone if they want to continue to live homosexually. It is that simple.
Perhaps that stupid question that activists give you from time to time can be reworked:
“How does it affect you if a psychologist or counsellor exists to help people walk away from homosexuality? You don’t have to see them!”
I met Lesley Pilkington in London back in February this year. A lovely woman with a wonderful gentle spirit. I am aghast at what has happened to her. I read online of one guy who refuses to allow any conversation on homosexuality to move past the the ‘born gay’ assumption and consistently repeats “Show me the genes!” I like the strategy; I’m sick of the fact the lie has managed to live this long.
Mark Rabich
Is the next retrograde step going to be to ban all such behaviour modification programs so that those in jail are not allowed to be treated for their drug addiction, kleptomania, pedophilia, abusive behaviour etc. Are we all never to be allowed to improve our selves. Does no one study history and the conditions in society that prevailed before the collapse of the Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilisations?
Patricia Rogers
Imaginary conversation:
“Madam would you like your little boy or girl to become gay?”
“Oh yes; I just want!”
Well maybe the politically correct side of her brain might say that, but the other side is saying, “I don’t want my son to die of AIDs, HIV and a host of other Sexually transmitted diseases.”
Listen to what Earl of Arran said in the House of Lords in 1967 when homosexuality was made legal.
“My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass. This is a little occasion, and perhaps I may say a few things. When we first debated these affairs—and how long ago it seems!—I said that your Lordships had it in your power to remove fear from the hearts of men. This you have done. It was this House which gave the lead. Because of the Bill now to be enacted, perhaps a million human beings will be able to live in greater peace. I find this an awesome and marvellous thing. The late Oscar Wilde, on his release from Reading Gaol, wrote to a friend: ‘Yes, we shall win in the end; but the road will be long and red with monstrous martyrdoms.”.’ My Lords, Mr. Wilde was right: the road has been long and the martyrdoms many, monstrous and bloody. Today, please God! sees the end of that road.
I ask one thing and I ask it earnestly. I ask those who have, as it were, been in bondage and for whom the prison doors are now open to show their thanks by comporting themselves quietly and with dignity. This is no occasion for jubilation; certainly not for celebration. Any form of ostentatious behaviour; now or in the future, any form of public flaunting, would be utterly distasteful and would, I believe, make the sponsors of the Bill regret that they have done what they have done. Homosexuals must continue to remember that while there may be nothing bad in being a homosexual, there is certainly nothing good. Lest the opponents of the Bill think that a new freedom, a new privileged class, has been created, let me remind them that no amount of legislation will prevent homosexuals from being the subject of dislike and derision, or at best of pity. We shall always, I fear, resent the odd man out. That is their burden for all time, and they must shoulder it like men—for men they are.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1967/jul/21/sexual-offences-no-2-bill
Please listen to Lesley Pilkington jousting with the Peter Tatchell on the BBC Word News’s “News Hour” programme, today, 2nd October.
The conversation begins at 14 minutes past 13.00.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/schedules
David Skinner, UK
Dear Bill,
As a psychologist I have observed this movement making its way across the Western world. Lesley Pilkington’s case filled me with despair because here was a therapist duped by a activist-journalist that any other professional body would have ruled as vexatious. Yet she lost her livelihood and a great deal of money because of his duplicitous behaviour. How long before this type of case happens in Australia?
Already the Aust Psych Society has fully thrown its support behind the same-sex marriage agenda on the most specious of all grounds. I resigned my membership because of its pathetic attempt to justify homosexual marriage on psychological wellbeing grounds!
Our society has at its core a contradiction between those who believe an order exists beyond humanity (–a divinely given order– I would say) and those who believe that the only order that exists is within human hearts. The latter world and life view began in the late18thC and is gradually extending its dominance over all of human life rather like an octopus: now the media, business, government, schools and even some churches are being drawn into its deadly ambit.
My point is that this idolatrous world view has been percolating for centuries now and we are seeing a neo-Romanticism now being more fully manifested with all its ugly features. Our only weapons against this onslaught are the weapons of prayer, fasting, the Word of God and societal action such as has been advocated by this website which knows that the fight is not ultimately in the seen world but in the heavenly realms.
Ian Ridgway
I do apologise for not presenting Lesley Pilkington’s interview with Peter Tatchell on BBC News Hour, 2nd October, 13.14p.m GMT properly.
Hopefully this link will work but I believe it lasts only about a week. Listen whilst it still lasts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/p00ygg0p
David Skinner, UK
Thanks Mark for the Kirk and Madsen, “After the Ball quotes.”
The book that preceded this was the ” The Overhauling of Straight America” and that is a valuable evidence for us also.
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
After the Ball:
http://uk.search-results.com/web?qsrc=1&o=1921&l=dis&q=after+the+ball+“The+public+should+be+persuaded+that+gays+are+victims+of+circumstance%2C&dm=all&atb=sysid%3D406%3Aappid%3D101%3Auid%3D12fcfc312cedcbf9
http://www.freewebs.com/theborngayhoax/theborngayhoax.htm
David Skinner, UK
The irony is that if homosexuality really was 100% genetic, nearly all babies with the gene would be aborted. Pope Paul V1 was right in 1968 when he said that contraception would lead to a huge increase in homosexuality. Sex is the new food – people think they’ll die if they’re not doing it, and food is the new sex – ‘naughty’ ‘wicked’ ‘sinful’ and always on TV. Jesus grew up surrounded by Graeco-Roman culture, the most homophilic in history, but it was the chastity of the first Christians that astonished and won over the pagans.
Nina Blondel
Mark, I wish to comment on your brilliant repost to the gaymafia above, “How does it affect you if a psychologist or counsellor exists to help people walk away from homosexuality? You don’t have to see them!”
But it will be as though you had sai to the Nazi Germans “If you don’t like living in the free world, where people can be self-determining, don’t go to Britain or America.”
Whereas you comment makes perfect sense in a world where people are free to make their own choices, this does not work in a tyrannical regime where our every thought, emotion and choice are ruthlessly controlled by gay narcissists. The gaystapo, frequently spout the mantra, “If you don’t like same-sex marriage, don’t marry someone of the same sex.” But what they really mean is that whilst you don’t have to marry someone of the same sex, you certainly won’t be able to marry anyone of the opposite sex either, because any church or marriage registrar who refuse to conduct gay marriage will be taken out of the public space.
This trailer to gay propaganda film is closer to the truth than it meant to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_UvlbdGCq8
Their deeply cynical and cruel statement is equivalent to the following:
“If you don’t like slavery, don’t keep slaves
If you don’t like rape, don’t rape anyone
If you don’t like overpaid bankers, don’t become an overpaid banker
… and so on.”
http://ccfather.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/empty-rhetoric.html
Finally this BBC clip, showing how the determination to cleanse society of any last Christian serving in society is writ large. The extraordinary thing in this clip is that those pushing for this narcissistic tyranny not gay, whilst the man championing freedom is in fact gay, who understands what is at stake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctrua5c-AYU
David Skinner, UK
Behind most gay man there’s a domineering mother or worse still, a molester. Given these factors and considering the single parent, mainly mothers, my worst fears could be becoming true.They claim 10 per cent of the population is gay, maybe that’s a forecast.
God loves gay people yes, but it’s not something I would wish on anyone.
Daniel Kempton
In 1649, a lawyer, by the name of John Cooke wrote the brief that was used to charge King Charles 1st of treason and attempting to wage war on the people of Britain:
“To the end that no chief officer or magistrate may hereafter presume traitorously or maliciously to imagine or contrive the enslaving or destroying of the English nation, and expect impunity for so doing….”
The British government and the establishment at every level have declared war on the British people and the intention of enslaving them in sexual addictions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/01/conversion-therapy-gay-patients-unethical
David Skinner, UK
The problem here Bill is the self-destruction of Exodus, which has gone from being a reputable organisation giving much needed help to mentally ill patients; to now when its leaders themselves declare you can’t cure homosexuality, which is what Alan Chambers has come out with.
Together we stand, divided we fall. As soon as organisations like Exodus weaken the gay agenda strengthens.
I’m not sure how much mileage there is in coercing people for their own good but surely we have to take action now before it’s too late, and our attempts to bring gays to repentance and Christ are outlawed?
Nick Blanchard
Thanks Nick
Yes it is bad news indeed about Alan. But we must press on nonetheless. And of course offering help to those who really want help is not about coercing anyone. It should only be available to those who want out.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
Hi Bill
Thank you for your great blog and for your recent article ‘you must remain trapped in your lifestyle’ (2/10/12) about which I am in agreement.
However there is just one statement I would like to correct as it is misleading as I am the therapist in question.
the article says ‘the formal statement of policy followed the decision to strike off Lesley Pilkington, a Christian psychotherapist, for offering to ‘convert’ an undercover journalist.’
In fact the homosexual journalist in question came up to me at a Judeo-Christian conference in London in 2009 put on by NARTH and Anglican Mainstream (and others) and said he was depressed and unhappy with his same sex attraction and wanted help to be heterosexual.
We only work with those who are like this, distressed about their sexuality, and who request help from us. We had a brief chat in which I told him I work in this area as a biblical christian counsellor (qualified) even though I am also an accredited member of BACP (as I was then). He told me that was exactly what he wanted as he too was a christian. we even talked about the HS and he said he knew and understood that.
I told him that we would have an initial session and after that he could decide if the way i worked was right for him or not. If not then i would refer him onto other therapists who would be gay affirming; I am gender affirming which is different
I work as a christian in this area as there is a great deal of destructiveness because of their lifestyle and pain from past and present toxic relationships.
I have gone into some detail here to explain how different it is what we actually do; ie we don’t ‘offer to convert’ anyone. That is what those who condemn us say. The therapy ( actually 2 sessions) was voluntarily entered into after he asked me for help, all the while lying about his intentions. And of course he was never a client, so never entered into a therapeutic relationship, as he only wanted to expose me and close me down.
And he has been quiet successful if you read the latest from BACP my previous professional body. However I am now a member of the ACC (Association of Christian Counsellors) so am more free to talk about biblical truths.
Lesley Pilkington, UK
Thanks for that Lesley. Keep up your great work – we are behind you.
Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch
PS I want to add that ‘they’ will never silence me from talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and I will continue to contend for the faith as I believe all those who follow Jesus are called to this, no matter the cost. Actually I am encouraged because as it gets darker in our nations our light of the truth of the gospel will be all the more bright and continue to give hope.
Lesley Pilkington, UK
Good on you Lesley, I wish I was more like you!
Steve Davis
David, your imaginary conversation in your earlier post made me think of those Muslim mothers who are being brainwashed into “desiring their children to become suicide bombers.”
It is scary to think how well brainwashing can work if a person does not have an anchor firmly rooted in the truth. It is hard for us westerners to understand, but it just makes me think sadly that maybe your imaginary conversation is not quite so imaginary after all, if God in His mercy does not intervene soon.
May we speak and live the truth wherever we go with much godly zeal
Many blessings
Ursula Bennett