We Need Another Resistance Movement: Remembering the Scholls

As the West grows increasingly darker, more ungodly, indeed more anti-God, more immoral, more culturally bankrupt, and more hostile to what so many of us believe in and value, we need to ask the question again: how are we to respond?

For example, is there a place for active resistance, and if so, what sort of resistance? I am not necessarily speaking here about armed rebellion (but who knows if that might become a morally licit option in days to come?). But I am speaking about things like civil disobedience, and perhaps even such things as a just revolution of sorts.

Of course I have written about both these options on a number of occasions elsewhere:

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2008/11/02/christians-and-civil-disobedience/
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-civil-disobedience/
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2013/07/11/is-revolution-ever-justified-part-one/
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2013/07/11/is-revolution-ever-justified-part-two/

But so many conservatives and Christians are really wondering how we should then live, as the West goes from bad to worse. It is not just a rotting culture, but the scarcity of any sort of principled leadership, that is so hard to bear. Here in Australia a principled conservative was knifed in the back by his own party members, replaced by a Labor-lite leader.

In the US we have already had two terms of Obama and his attempts to destroy the nation. And now we may only have the unenviable options of a Clinton or Sanders vs a Trump. All three options could well spell the end of America and the American dream.

All over the West we have weak, craven, compromising and self-loathing leaders who seem intent on dragging the entire West down with them. The absence of real leadership is just heartbreaking. Just hours ago I wrote about the issue of whether we simply get the leaders we deserve.

That is a good question indeed, and I encourage you to have a read of my piece: https://billmuehlenberg.com/2016/02/23/on-getting-the-government-we-deserve/

But as things grow worse and worse, with few positive options on the horizon, we may have to increasingly speak of bands of resistance fighters defying the state and agitating for freedom, morality, and humanity. And this would not be the first time such a need arose.

Hans and Sophie SchollOften as things became very dark in the past, brave and principled resistance groups emerged to stand for what is right and speak out against that which is evil. And they often paid for their heroism with their own lives. Plenty of examples could be mentioned here, but let me focus on just one.

Not many of you would have heard of Hans and Sophie Scholl, siblings who took a stand against tyranny and injustice, and paid the ultimate price for doing so. Exactly 73 years ago they were executed by those they were rising up against in brave resistance.

The Holocaust Encyclopedia offers a nice summary of their lives and work, so let me present it here in full:

In 1942 Hans Scholl, a medical student at the University of Munich, his sister Sophie, Christoph Probst, Willi Graf, and Alexander Schmorell founded the “White Rose” movement, one of the few German groups that spoke out against Nazi genocidal policies.
Nazi tyranny and the apathy of German citizens in the face of the regime’s “abominable crimes” outraged idealistic “White Rose” members. Many of them had heard about the mass murder of Polish Jews; as a soldier on the eastern front, Hans Scholl had also seen firsthand the mistreatment of Jewish forced laborers and heard of the deportation of large numbers of Poles to concentration camps.
The group expanded into an organization of students in Hamburg, Freiburg, Berlin, and Vienna. At great risk, “White Rose” members transported and mailed mimeographed leaflets that denounced the regime. In their attempt to stop the war effort, they advocated the sabotage of the armaments industry. “We will not be silent,” they wrote to their fellow students. “We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will not leave you in peace!” Because the students were aware that only military force could end Nazi domination, they limited their aims to achieve “a renewal from within of the severely wounded German spirit.”
After the German army’s defeat at Stalingrad in late January 1943, the Scholls distributed pamphlets urging students in Munich to rebel. But in the next month, a university janitor who saw them with the pamphlets betrayed them to the Gestapo (German secret state police).
The regime executed Hans and Sophie Scholl and Christoph Probst on February 22, 1943. Officials also eventually arrested and executed philosophy professor Kurt Huber, who had guided the movement, and the rest of the “White Rose” members.
At his trial Huber remained loyal to the eighteenth century German philosopher Immanuel Kant’s ethical teaching, as he concluded his defense with the words of Kant’s disciple Johann Gottlieb Fichte:
And thou shalt act as if
On thee and on thy deed
Depended the fate of all Germany,
And thou alone must answer for it.

And a newspaper article today commentating the anniversary of their death concluded with these words:

During the brief trial before she was beheaded Sophie shared a cell with a political prisoner called Else Gebel.
She claimed that, on the eve of her death, Sophie said to her: ‘It is such a splendid sunny day, and I have to go. But how many have to die on the battlefield in these days, how many young, promising lives? What does my death matter if by our acts thousands are warned and alerted? Among the student body there will certainly be a revolt.’
No student revolt did take place but she earned her place in history. Books and films about her and the White Rose abound, streets, shopping centres and schools abound in Germany bearing her name.
One historian said: ‘Germans followed Hitler blindly to destruction. It took a wisdom and a strength far beyond their years to stand up to the colossal evil of Nazism and die unflinchingly when it struck back.’

Hans was only 24 when he was executed while Sophie was just 21. Christoph Probst was 23, and was executed just after his wife had given birth to their third child. A few quotes from these Christian heroes are worth offering here:

“Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone.” (Sophie Scholl)

“The real damage is done by those millions who want to ‘survive.’ The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves – or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honour, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small. It’s the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you’ll keep it under control. If you don’t make any noise, the bogeyman won’t find you. But it’s all an illusion, because they die too, those people who roll up their spirits into tiny little balls so as to be safe. Safe?! From what? Life is always on the edge of death; narrow streets lead to the same place as wide avenues, and a little candle burns itself out just like a flaming torch does. I choose my own way to burn.” (Sophie Scholl)

“How can we expect fate to let a righteous cause prevail when there is hardly anyone who will give himself up undividedly to a righteous cause?” (Sophie Scholl)

“I will cling to the rope God has thrown me in Jesus Christ, even when my numb hands can no longer feel it.” (Sophie Scholl)

“It’s high time that Christians made up their minds to do something . . . What are we going to show in the way of resistance… when all this terror is over? We will be standing empty-handed. We will have no answer when we are asked: What did you do about it?” (Hans Scholl)

“No one can know what secret inner ripening can come from suffering and sorrow. All we know is that every individual’s life is priceless – that each is dear to God.” (Christoph Probst)

While the West is of course not in a similar place to Nazi Germany, many concerned thinkers are wondering if we are quickly heading in that direction. With seemingly no one but megalomaniacs and demagogues leading the US polls, with genuine conservatives struggling to keep in the race, the future is not looking very good.

Hitler came in on a wave of populism, national discontent, and making grandiose promises. Some of the POTUS candidates seem to be following in similar style. Philosopher and law professor Robert George once said (at least if Twitter is to be believed) that this is a very precarious place to be in: “The danger to republics is that they will fall to demagogues. The vulnerability is greatest when a republic is in a state of moral decay.”

So things are looking rather grim at the moment, and some of those who have come along as a solution to the problem may in fact only make matters worse. In the light of all this, we need to at least think and pray about how we might go as resistance fighters if that becomes our main option.

At the very least, we desperately need the principles, courage and dedication Hans and Sophie Scholl and the White Rose movement had as we contemplate our next moves in the darkening days ahead.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007188
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541753/Nazis-slaughtered-brother-sister-guillotine-German-woman-93-tells-siblings-defied-Hitler-death-treason-1943.html

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17 Replies to “We Need Another Resistance Movement: Remembering the Scholls”

  1. Thank you Bill for telling me once again a piece of my own history I have never learnt before and that makes me cry. I will find out more.
    But Bill, I am not sure if the west is not even worse off now than it was in the time of Hitler. Hitler did all of his damage in 12 years, and that required a certain amount of probably unwanted haste. Modern social engineers had a lot longer to prepare for their final stroke. One of the greatest dangers is the fact that too many people think that Hitler’s Germany could never happen again in America, Europe or Australia.
    Of course that is not true and you and all your contributors know that, but…
    Many blessings
    Ursula Bennett

  2. Dear Friends

    The EU is a tyranny under any other name. Yes, the powers of the controlling elite of the European Institution are identical to those taken by Hitler and his supporters in the years leading up to the Second World War. Be not deceived, the EU is evil.

    Pray for the British as we prepare for the BRITEX vote on 23rd June 2016. We may well be standing again alone against the might and power of mainland continental Europe. God has totally miraculously given us as a people and as a nation state the opportunity to sever the rope that holds us to this evil of the Woman Europa riding on the Beast ! Pray to God that we as a people choice freedom rather than slavery and destruction.

    The world is watching the BRITEX vote. It may well be critical for saving the Remnant in the West.

    Praise God

    Naomi

  3. One of my favourite movies is about Hans and Sophie – called ‘Sophie Scholl: The Final Days.’ It’s in German with English subtitles. It can be found on Youtube for those who would like a dramatisation to become familiar with their story. It was broadcast on SBS some years ago. I watched it again recently, not realising that the anniversary of their execution was coming up.

  4. Naomi’s words echo my own feelings. I believe God has raised up a number of strong personalities in Britain (e.g Nigel Farage) to bring about the opportunity to escape from the European Union’s clutches. These people have fought for years to force a referendum. Just because there are no bombs or soldiers on the streets (yet), people become complacent and think that their lives will just carry on as usual.

    We are facing propaganda bombardment, just as we did in WW2; threats from companies saying they will leave the UK if we vote out; threats of job losses if we vote out, threats of economic turmoil if we vote out, etc etc ad nauseam. The newspapers have already taken up their fighting corners.

    So if God has indeed given us this chance, we must seize it. Britain needs a miracle on voting-day, since I firmly believe there will be many attempts to rig the voting.

  5. Why are Christians so shocked and outraged at what is going on? This was predicted, folks, by Jesus himself and many of the apostles and prophets. Persecution is GOOD for our faith and we should regard it as our normal condition. If it is not, then your faith is not real. As for “What to do” – we carry on being Christians: praying, reading the bible, professing the bible, speaking up and out for Jesus. Forming political parties and buying guns won’t save this world which is doomed for destruction. I hope the UK leaves the appalling EU but even if it does, our fundamental spiritual situation will not be changed.

  6. But even if Britain leaves the EU the enemy lies within. Britain has the largest number of gay MPs in the World, plus an increasing number of Muslims in Parliament.
    We face a very different war to that experienced in WW11. Then it was only our outer fabric that was under attack. Today, far more lethal and effective weapons than the conventional ones are being used to hollow us out from within.

    The weapon of terror being used by our own government against its people is not the gun or the bomb but the threat of having one’s children taken into “care”, because of having the wrong political views, followed with the possibility of their being handed over to LGBT fostering agencies, like Core Assets, dedicated to supplying gays with fresh goods and services : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXYThi-g14k

    Lisa Miller was ordered by a court to hand over her seven year old daughter Isabella to a lesbian, Janet Jenkins. Lisa fled with her daughter is now hiding in Nicaragua.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0UuHA0ZgNs#t=75
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM9l2opuRB4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME0kVBS882U

    Christian foster parents, Eunice and Owen Johns were deemed unfit to foster children because their Christian faith was considered by the Equality and Human Rights Commission to be an infection.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctrua5c-AYU

    http://www.christian.org.uk/news/equality-commission-sorry-for-christian-infection-jibe/

    Islington social services, under a Labour council, supplied homosexual paedophiles with fresh meat
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html

    A fiive year old boy was torn from his grandparents and given to perverts.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1131200/Boy-5-forced-adoption-gay-couple-pleads-We-want-stay-gran-grandad.html

    Sir James Munby (President of the Family Division) remarked:
    ‘Only the death penalty is more drastic than removing a child from its parents forever’.

    The question is what would any of us do if the social services came to our door to take our children away and handed them over to perverts?

    David Skinner UK

  7. Imagine that your child is being groomed and finally seduced and raped by a sexual predator; but you, the parent are unable to speak up for fear of pubic humiliation, police arrest, fines, loss of occupation and home and possibility of a long prison sentence. But worse than all of this, imagine that the social services then threaten you with taking your child and handing it to the predator who also turns your child against you. This is no imaginary scenario but is happening subtly, almost imperceptibly on a national and industrial scale, with the full co- operation of a population who seem paralysed to do anything about it.

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2008/10/state-groomers.html

    In 2006, a Diane Mullaly, referring to homosexuals wrote:
    “I am a committed Christian aged 63 and so very grieved that a minority in this country could push things so far that the majority of us could be forced into tolerating their views in our churches, schools, businesses and homes or risk prosecution.
    I for one will not accept that my church will be unable to refuse to marry same- sex couples or hire out halls for gay parties/ events or even to gay couples into a Christain bed and breakfast. In all these issues including the adoption one – I will gladly go to prison but I will not have these things forced upon me or my family.
    I want the right to choose what I teach my children and grandchilden – not have it forced upon me that I must teach them about “ another kind of love” as they put it …..I will not teach my grandchildren this, nor stand by and agree to someone else doing so, and I sincerely hope that there are many, many women like me who feel the same in this country .
    If this law is passed in this country my freedom to choose will have been taken away.”

    David Skinner UK

  8. I am not necessarily speaking here about armed rebellion (but who knows if that might become a morally licit option in days to come?).

    Civil disobedience yes, armed resistance no, no, no. I firmly believe christians must not consider taking up arms outside of the government controlled defence forces. It did not happen when Christ and the apostles were in charge of the church even though they had ample reason to do so. The example of christians answering sword with pacifism, martyrdom and forgiveness is a witness that stands for all time and led to an explosion of belief in Jesus Christ. Christ and the apostles prophesied we would be heavily persecuted in the last days-at no stage did they ever say take up arms. If we even suggest such, that will at least cause our enemies to have excuse to accuse us of being a threat to the state, or worse, it will lead to groups of believers taking up arms and using them prematurely some of which will certainly do so in rash ways. Please be aware of Kingdom now and dominion theology which exists within christendom, claiming that christians need to take over government for Christ to return. There could christians who will marry this theology with a suggestion that use of arms is ok, to try and further their goals.

  9. Thanks Bob. I of course am not a pacifist and neither am I commanded to be one in Scripture. See here for example:

    https://billmuehlenberg.com/2015/01/30/auschwitz-war-and-justice/

    And here:

    https://billmuehlenberg.com/2007/03/23/were-the-early-christians-pacifists/

    And I already wrote about the moral and biblical possibility of just revolution. See here:

    http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/07/11/is-revolution-ever-justified-part-one/
    http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/07/11/is-revolution-ever-justified-part-two/

    And it of course goes without saying that I would not even be here (as an American) if it were not for people fighting for their liberty against tyranny several centuries ago, even with weapons.

    Also, I take a differing view from you on the need to see the Lordship of Christ impact every area of society. But given that I have written many dozens of articles on all these topics already, I am not going to repeat myself here.

    So we will have to differ here thanks.

  10. The Schools lived and died in the time of Nazi Germany which was a totalitarian Big Brother police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens said and did.

    Education was nationalized and God was kicked out of the schools.
    Under Adolf Hitler, God was mocked and religion was pushed out of every corner of public life.

    Just check out the following information uncovered by author Bruce Walker….

    The Nazi tract Gott und Volk was distributed in 1941, and it describes the life cycle of German youth in the future, who would: “With parties and gifts the youth will be led painlessly from one faith to the other and will grow up without ever having heard of the Sermon on the Mount or the Golden Rule, to say nothing of the Ten Commandments… The education of the youth is to be confined primarily by the teacher, the officer, and the leaders of the party. The priests will die out. They have estranged the youth from the Volk. Into their places will step the leaders. Not deputies of God. But anyway the best Germans. And how shall we train our children? Thus, as though they had never heard of Christianity!”

    I sometimes see Christians described as Nazi bigots yet it is the opposite – By 1935, the virulently anti-Christian leader of the Hitler Youth, Baldur von Shirach issued a regulation that prohibited any child from belonging simultaneously to a church youth group and the Hitler Youth, and gradually membership in the Hitler Youth became almost obligatory – parents were told that their children would not get jobs in the civil service unless they belonged to the Hitler Youth and employers were told not to hire children who did not belong to the Hitler Youth. Christian schoolchildren who did not belong to the Hitler Youth or its female counterpart were routinely beaten up by young Nazi thugs.

    Boys inducted into the Hitler Youth were required to explicitly reject Christianity by oaths like this: “German blood and Christian baptismal water are completely incompatible.” At Hitler Youth center at Halle, was the following prominent statement: “The Faith fanatics, who still to-day slide down on their knees with faces uplifted to heaven, waste their time in churchgoing and prayers, and have not yet understood that they are living on the earth and that therefore their task is of a thoroughly earthly kind. All we Hitler people can still only look with the greatest contempt on those young people who still run to their silly Evangelical or Catholic Churches in order to vent their quite superstitious religious feelings.”

    Those that believe that the Nazis embraced Christianity are delusional. The following are direct quotes out of Hitler Youth training manuals….

    “Christianity is a religion of slaves and fools.”

    “How did Christ die? Whining at the Cross!”

    “The Ten Commandments represent the lowest instincts of man.”

    “Christianity is merely a cloak for Judaism.”

    It all sounds so depressingly familiar!

    See futher http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/20-signs-that-the-nazification-of-america-is-almost-complete

  11. Well said David,

    One in every ten adopted children now goes to a homosexual now ! Yes I absolutely agree that we in Britain are being hollowed out from the inside by homosexuals and Muslims BUT it will be better for us out of the EU than in it ! Much of this insanity which passes as ‘normal life’ these days is a result of EU legislation and ideology. Eighty percent of all our laws are now made for us in Brussels. If we loose this referendum it will be 100%.

    Make no mistake the vote on 23rd June is crucial.

    I also agree with John that it is business as usual for Christians “we carry on being Christians: praying, reading the bible, professing the bible, speaking up and out for Jesus” but the context will be very different. The Spiritual heart of continental Europe is the Vatican which is the Roman Empire. The EU is the empire of clay and iron, secular and Roman Catholic which mingles, as described in the Book of Daniel. It is all coming to pass. Europe is becoming a very black place. The EU has already ceded Christian Greece to Muslim Turkey, their moral enemies without a backward glance and we all know about the Muslim takeover under the false flag of refugees.

    The EU will side against Israel and has already joined with the Muslims in the power bid for Jerusalem, which will turn into all out War. Britain needs to be out of this. We need to vote OUT and we need to PRAY, like we have never done before !!!

  12. Most Evangelical Christians today are silent and non-judgemental and non-confrontational in the face of evil i.e abortion, homosexuality, feminism, adultery etc.

    Some resort to prayer and that is all they do. I once heard a quote that might help some to find their courage. It goes something like this, “You can’t do more than pray until you’ve prayed, but you can do more than pray after you’ve prayed.”

    Here is a similar quote from the famous missionary C.T. Studd,
    “We Christians too often substitute prayer for playing the game. Prayer is good: but when it is used as a substitute for obedience, it is nothing but a blatant blasphemy.”

    Where the battle rages most fiercely, the Christian should be found fighting the good fight of faith, and today, the forces of evil are intent on replacing the laws of God with the evil laws of man which call evil good and good evil.

    Christians should remember that “No enactment of men can be considered law unless it conforms to the law of God.” William Blackstone.

    We Christians are duty bound to oppose evil laws and refuse to obey them because the Bible reminds us that we are to obey God rather than men.

  13. Amen to all of that Naomi.

    Jesus Christ cleared the temple with a whip. Why should we not clear our schools of perverts, like Sir Ian McKellen, corrupting our children – not with whips and overturning tables, but simply by getting them by the scruff of the neck and the seat of the pants and bum rushing them off the school premises? This way leaves no marks or bruises.

    The BBC gave news coverage of McKellen visiting the Severn Vale School, Gloucestershire, in 2009, where, professing to create a nicer, softer, gay friendly environment he said, “I am very impressed, not just with the leadership, the head teacher, the staff, but from the students themselves . At quite young ages they seem to have grasped the simple situation that we should be kind to each other.” -Yeh! Right!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6j2RtRoQW8

    Frankly who would allow this filthy old man anywhere near their cat let alone their child?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/gloucestershire/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8387000/8387922.stm

    I doubt that Mckellen gives a performance, in front of children, teachers, parents, governors, dinner ladies and cleaning staff, of his reading the blasphemous and pornographic poem the “Love that Dares to Speak its Name”, by James Kirkup, that describes graphically the sodomising of the dead body of Jesus Christ, or whether he gives a demonstration of how to rip pages from the Bible.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zaR27xja6U

    David Skinner UK

  14. Here is a message from Steve Stevens, 97 year old cannon and rocket firing pilot from WW11. Though bed – ridden and nearing the end of his time here on Earth, he still has his finger on the firing button.
    http://stevestevensdfc.co.uk/?p=83

    David Skinner UK

  15. Dear Bill, David et al

    You are so right. I had a Pastor who tolerated fornication and adultery in the congregation and whose solution to those that objected was to invite them to pray for the offending couple ! How obscene is that ? A total blasphemy of the Word of God. The truth is that most in the weak and sickly church nowadays will NOT submit to Christ the KING and OBEY his Word. We often don’t need to pray to hear from God on these matters because he has already told us, very clearly indeed, in his Word what His Will is.

    Keep up the good work !

    Blessings
    Naomi

  16. Joe Deller, speaking of the forcible indoctrination of children in Nazi Germany, we have the same here in Britain with regard to eschewing Christianity in favour of Queer Theology. In spite of claiming to be a human rights champion, especially in the area of freedom of speech, Peter Tatchell speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He may well allow a child to express a personal opinion, have its huff and get things off its chest but it will still be forced to bend the knee to the gaystapo.

    Speaking at Wolverhampton University he said,

    “ What I propose – as a positive- is that all schools, from the very first year of primary education, should be required by law to have mandatory equality and diversity lessons – so every school should have to introduce mandatory equality and diversity education, from the first year of primary school. The first year of primary school, all pupils throughout the rest of their school life, should have mandatory equality and diversity lessons – to combat prejudice -to promote understanding – to encourage acceptance – not just on LGBT issues, but also on race, gender, disability, faith and belief. The idea is to create an inclusive, compassionate society. Why do I say this? Because, very simply, we all know that young kids are not born bigoted. They become bigoted. And we know from pioneering studies and experiences in some countries and cities, that where this early education, against prejudice is in place, those kids tend to grow up to be much less bigoted, in later life…………”

    But no one taught Tatchell to be a liar, bigot, and filthy pervert, he was born a sinner and it is only God’s restraining hand, his Word and His Church that stops society becoming as bad as him.

    He finishes by saying,

    “Now I would say that having the lessons themselves, is not sufficient. The equality and diversity lessons need to be backed up with exams – because pupils and often teachers only take things seriously when there is an exam. Make them do the exam. Make those exam results go into their school report. Make it a mandatory requirement for all job applicants to produce the results of their equality and diversity exams.”

    [A4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7osnqe7vY (Listen to Peter Tatchell at (51 minutes 10 seconds)

    To Peter Tatchel the real enemy is organised religion. By this he means those who uphold Biblical truth on matters of sexuality.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca1RfVBghvU

    By contrast he holds up the Metropolitan Community Church, the Quakers and queer theologians like the Rev Elizabeth Stuart, Vice Chancellor of Winchester University who has been made a saint by the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a creature right at the cutting edge!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG1xYMiOk1E

    David Skinner UK

  17. This is an interesting article to read nearly two years after the election. It’s like a switch was flipped in Trump that has turned off all his worst characteristics and turned on all his best ones, including ones we did not know existed.

    The name for this switch seems to be called Pence.

    And Trump may yet prove to be everything you (and many others, including me) warned that he could be, but so far he has made us look like fools.

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