1930s Germany Revisited

We MUST learn from history, or we will lose it all:

I am now starting to know how people like Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Niemöller felt. They looked around at what was happening to a once free and democratic Germany, and they saw the slow but certain rise of totalitarianism. Worse yet, they saw most of their fellow Germans fully supporting what was happening – and that included most German Christians.

I believe that in many ways things today are ominously similar. No, I am NOT saying we are on the exact same road. However, there most certainly are some very real and worrying parallels. But let me pause and deal with a common criticism that will arise at this point.

Godwin’s Law is an adage that says this: “As a discussion on the Internet grows longer, the likelihood of a person/s being compared to Hitler or another Nazi, increases.” It involves the idea that someone has lost a debate when they resort to Nazi analogies or parallels.

Sure, sometimes folks can falsely and fallaciously drag up some historical parallel or comparison with the Nazis. But sometimes folks are entirely justified in doing so. Indeed, at times not to would mean to violate Santayana’s ‘law’ about those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

The more I study history, the more I see history repeating itself. What is happening in the once free West over Covid is just too similar to what occurred in the once free Germany in the 1930s. Tyranny seldom happens overnight, but usually arises incrementally – step by step.

In the name of “keeping us safe” governments have been imposing the most draconian measures, including the suspension of basic human rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of movement and freedom of religion. Yet for too long the masses have happily gone along with all this.

Hitler and the Nazis even used the excuse of ‘public safety’ as they implemented their totalitarian policies. Indeed, most tyrannies have done this. Recall that in revolutionary France Robespierre and Co via the National Convention set up “The Committee for Public Safety” in 1793 as part of their terror campaign. Remember the guillotine!

As one site says: “The Convention acquiesced in the committee’s draconian measures—such as surveillance committees, preventive detention, and controls on civil liberties—seen as necessary to secure the republic to a point at which the suspension of the democratic constitution of June 1793 could be lifted.”

Hmm, sounds just like Dan Andrews’ Victoria, and so many other jurisdictions. But let me return to pre-war Germany. One of the major concerns we face today are things like compulsory medical mandates – the sort of things covered in the 1946 Nuremberg Trials.

Part of this is the push for vaccine passports, and the creation of a new medical apartheid. A new Covid underclass is arising. Those who for any reason may have legitimate reasons for Covid vaccine hesitancy (no, not anti-vaxxers – just those questioning these new vaccines) are now treated as a group of untouchables.

They are unclean, and must be treated like pariahs. They must be punished for their evil recalcitrance, and they must be separated and isolated from the rest of society – in order to ‘keep us safe.’ That too was a major feature of life in Germany in the 1930s and 40s.

Simply consider the Untermensch (underman, sub-man, subhuman). As an online resource puts it, this is

a Nazi term for non-Aryan “inferior people” often referred to as “the masses from the East”, that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Poles and Serbs etc). The term was also applied to Mulatto and Black people. Jews were to be exterminated in the Holocaust, along with the Polish and Romani people, and the physically and mentally disabled. . . . These concepts were an important part of the Nazi racial policy.

Hmm, this too sounds familiar. Increasingly the unvaccinated are being seen in the same way. They are said to be the reason why Covid continues, and they are now a despised minority. Various leaders and government officials and media outlets have already told us they should not even be allowed to get medical treatment – in addition to all the other freedoms stolen away from them!

I have personally been told by some of these haters that they hope I die of Covid. Feel the love baby. Such concern for humanity. A new two-tiered society is now upon us, and it looks far too much like what we witnessed last century. And we already have the same snitching on others, the same dobbing in of neighbours that we had back then.

No wonder one person recently said this: “I’m starting to learn who would have hidden Anne Frank and who would have turned her over to the Nazis.” But getting back to a new class of health untouchables, another article reminds us of how most Germans back then viewed the Jews:

A recurrent theme in Nazi antisemitic propaganda was that Jews spread diseases. To prevent non-Jews from attempting to enter the ghettos and from seeing the condition of daily life there for themselves, German authorities posted quarantine signs at the entrances, warning of the danger of contagious disease. Since inadequate sanitation and water supplies coupled with starvation rations quickly undermined the health of the Jews in the ghettos, these warnings became a self-fulfilling prophecy, as typhus and other infectious diseases ravaged ghetto populations. Subsequent Nazi propaganda utilized these man-made epidemics to justify isolating the “filthy” Jews from the larger population. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public

And one scholarly article entitled “In the Name of Public Health — Nazi Racial Hygiene” begins this way:

In democratic societies, the needs of public health sometimes require citizens to make sacrifices for the greater good, but in Nazi Germany, national or public health — Volksgesundheit — took complete precedence over individual health care. Physicians and medically trained academics, many of whom were proponents of “racial hygiene,” or eugenics, legitimized and helped to implement Nazi policies aiming to “cleanse” German society of people viewed as biologic threats to the nation’s health. Racial-hygiene measures began with the mass sterilization of the “genetically diseased” and ended with the near-annihilation of European Jewry. ps://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/07192004-nazi-racial-hygiene-bachrach.pdf

Let me mention two recent pieces looking at the current Covid situation in relation to what the world witnessed just 90 years ago. One piece says in part:

This is 1938. I’m a Jew. I now understand just a little of what it felt like to be a Jew in 1938. No, it’s not the Holocaust. Nothing can be compared to the Holocaust. Ever. But 1938 was not the Holocaust. It was the pre-Holocaust. It was the time before the nightmare, when the foundation was being laid to destroy the freedom, free speech, businesses and lives of millions of Jews. Everything happening today to the American people … to the U.S. Constitution … to freedom … and particularly to unvaccinated Americans reminds me of 1938. This is only the beginning. It gets much worse from here.


First, “the papers.” Vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are just like 1938, when the Gestapo demanded papers from every German. Republicans asked for “papers” from migrants who had broken into our country. Criminals. Democrats said, “No, that’s racism.” Republicans asked for “papers” once every two years for federal elections, to prove you have a right to vote. Democrats said, “No, that’s racism.”


Now Democrats want American citizens, not illegal aliens, not criminals, but patriots born in this country, to produce papers 24/7. We’ll need papers to enter restaurants, bars, nightclubs, concerts, casinos, conventions and hotels and to board a train, plane or bus. We’ll need papers to enter a supermarket, or we’ll starve to death. All for the crime of being unvaccinated.

He continues:

By the way, this isn’t about vaccines. If you want the vaccine, take it. I’d never stop you. I’d never limit your freedom, your choice. This is about vaccine mandates – forcibly injecting Americans who don’t want it. That’s 1938…. But there’s much more in common with 1938. Mask mandates. If you’re scared, wear them. I’m not scared. I don’t want to wear them. Mandates are about forcing individuals to lose their freedom, choice, individuality and human rights. That’s 1938.


Lockdowns are a match with the Warsaw Ghetto. Jews were locked down. Jews couldn’t work. Jews couldn’t travel. Jewish businesses were labeled “nonessential.” If government can force us to close our businesses, to kill our jobs, to decide who is nonessential, then this is 1938. Stars on clothing. It’s coming. The vaccinated get into restaurants, bars, concerts, supermarkets, planes and trains. They keep their jobs. The rest of us are marked as “subhuman” for life. That’s the star. That’s 1938.


Media and social media as the public-relations wing of the government. That’s called propaganda. Remind you of 1938? Back then, the Jews’ books were burned. Today, it’s those of conservatives, patriots and specifically the unvaccinated. We are silenced. Our facts are labeled “misleading.” Only the facts that agree with big government’s agenda count. That’s 1938. https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/welcome-1938-first-came-unvaccinated/

OK, I can see the critics already chirping: ‘Ah, that is just some nutjob conspiracy theorist, some rightwing loon.’ Then let me finish by citing someone who knows what they are talking about. It so happens that we still have some Holocaust survivors with us today, and many of them do NOT like what they are witnessing. Here is the story of one of them:

Holocaust survivor and medical activist Vera Sharav said recently on a podcast that we should be feeling “more than nervous” about the current state of public health measures, including lockdowns, forced vaccinations, and testing. Referring to the Nazi movement, Sharav said, “Fear is an extremely powerful psychological tool, that has been used by politicians always, the Nazis were particularly adept at it.”


Sharav was brought on to the podcast to discuss the host’s concerns about the direction in which she believes public health measures are going. They discussed a range of topics having to do with the response to COVID-19 taken by various governments.


In the opinion of the host, Trish Wood, there are parallels between the narrative surrounding the COVID-19 situation and the narrative common in Germany under Nazism that was used to subjugate citizens. Vera Sharav agreed that it is logical to see similarities between that time and our time. Of particular concern to Sharav and Wood is the fact that doctors then, as now, were largely caught up by ideas that harmed people on a significant scale….


In her opinion, it is “nonsense” to suggest that sacrificing the rights of individuals is conducive to the greater good; she said this in reference to the accepted orthodoxy of locking down society to protect a subset of the population.


“As public officials they talk about the greater good. Who has the authority to decide what is the greater good? … If the individuals are oppressed or relegated to third-class citizens … what kind of society is it? We are now at the gate of that.”


When asked about whether or not she believed we are in fact on the cusp of a Nazi-like society and why, Sharav replied emphatically: “I absolutely do… One of the main things that has happened in these 18 months of the pandemic is that fear has been the major weapon, which has really crippled people from thinking straight. It has isolated people and taught children to distrust other people: ‘They might be infected, they might infect me’.”


In addition, she stated that vaccination passports “are the gateway to a totalitarian surveillance state.” She added, “it was under the Nazis, it was under Stalin, it was under Mao – it still is in China – this is where we’re going if we allow it to happen.”


Sharav said that the Holocaust involved a unique link between the medical establishment and the goals of the Nazis. “Hitler then, as rulers now, deferred to the health officials. We are constantly being told, ‘we are following the science’.” As a result she says we are now witnessing a “complete overthrow of human civilization.” https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/holocaust-survivor-more-than-nervous-covid-measures/

As I say, people like this ought to know. If you refuse to believe them and learn from history, then we are already doomed.

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37 Replies to “1930s Germany Revisited”

  1. Thank you Bill for standing and being a true follower of Christ. I said, to myself a few weeks ago, that I now know who would have turned in Anne Frank.
    May the Lord help us to stand up for him during this time. God bless you my brother.

  2. Hi Bill, right to the point on this critical matter. Thank you. Here is what I sent to the Premier and my MPs (Opposition Ldr, lower house, Eastern metro upper house) just a few moments ago. Titled “State sponsored Discrimination in 2021: can that really be the case?”

    Dear Premier and Members of Parliament,
    I thought i heard that regular Victorians will be prevented from participating in the community (e.g. entry to grocery stores, cafes, sporting events, theatres, etc) based on subjective criteria about covid vaccination.

    If this is the case, can I please request that you refrain from such bullying, intimidation and discriminatory behaviour. I see that AFL players are taking the time they need to make their decision (some have said that they will wait until after the season is over) https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/vaccination-is-the-way-forward-patrick-dangerfield-20210909-p58qbd.html “…..the AFLPA has said it does not support mandatory vaccinations for players…..”

    And so I ask that you afford all members of the Victorian community the proper respect and dignity and time to make their personal and autonomous health decision without coercion. My Mum has suffered side-effects from AZ. I hope you can understand that this unexpected and worrisome situation informs part of my decision process. People in the community should not be stressed out by MPs’ poor behaviour which is adding to our mental health burden.

    I look forward to your considered and timely response. Thank you.

    Yours sincerely,

  3. I disagree with people who see totalitarianism in the vaccine mandates because the mandates and health measures serve to protect people from spreading Covid-19 to other people and especially to children who cannot be vaccinated yet.

    However, I do agree that certain elements of our society are quite similar to Germany in the 1930s. One example is the lack of respect for the individual citizen and a certain degree of law and order for a society, government, or any organization to operate smoothly. Another example is the admiration some “democratic” leaders for atheistic dictators because “the dictators get things done quickly.” Actually, the people who live in such dictatorships suffer under the bondage of tyranny. They are allowed almost no personal freedom, and this conformity keeps them from having any individuality. They cannot think or act for themselves because they live in fear for their lives.

    Uppermost in my mind is the fact that abortion has been legal in the United States since 1973. Almost 80 years ago the free world went to war with Nazi Germany and its Culture of Death. For the past 50 years abortion and — in some cases –assisted suicide have become legal in our own country. Not only is abortion a form of genocide and eugenics, it promotes the idea that there is no concept of an innocent being. Whether a living being is a stray dog or cat, a handicapped or elderly person that has become a burden, or an imperfect or unwanted child, the Culture of Death has its own final solution: Death.

    From my own experience I learned certain members of law enforcement and the legal system have the idea that “everyone is guilty of something” and that the victim of a crime must have “done something” to deserve whatever happened to him. So, what is the point of having laws, claiming to help victims of crime, or punishing a criminal? When my own home was burglarized, the local police told me I was at fault because I had “something” that tempted the burglars to steal. Anyone with common sense and a basic knowledge of Judeo-Christian values can see the upside-down way society and certain officials view the world and the total reversal of basic “right and wrong” It truly is the “blame the victim” game.

    The incident resulted in far more than just the loss of belongings and the ruin of long-awaited dreams. It meant that I as an individual had no worth and no rights. It meant that my years of work were worthless and that I did not deserve to have any kind of self fulfillment, gainful employment, or achievement. In fact, it meant that anything I owned should not be worth anything to anyone. The bottom line was that there was no crime because the thieves “were just expressing themselves.”

    As anyone can see, for the past 50 years, society has run rampant while leaders have no sense of being rational, no sense of loyalty or adherence to the constitution of their country, and no sense of order or responsibility to citizens, The events of the last 50 years have matched the Biblical description of men “doing whatsoever was right in their own eyes.” As most believers know, the Bible says this happened before the flood in the days of Noah, and the Bible foretells it will happen in the last days.

  4. Thanks Sheila. But you are quite wrong with your first remark. The Covid vaccines of course do NOT prevent people from getting the virus, nor from passing it on. Indeed, nations with the highest vaccination rates are seeing big spikes in new cases. As but just one example of this, see here: “Massachusetts Reports Over 4,000 Fully-Vaccinated People Caught COVID Just Last Week. Over 600 fully-vaccinated people PER DAY have caught COVID over the past week…and sadly, 18 of those people have died.” https://www.waynedupree.com/2021/09/ma-covid-breakthrough-cases/

    Nor do draconian lockdowns help. Here in Victoria I am living in a city that has had the harshest and longest lockdown of anywhere on the planet. Cases are skyrocketing here as well.

    And every major human rights declaration and medical ethics statement of the past 75 years have said that there must be NO coercion in medical treatment, and people must be allowed full informed consent in any treatment they might take. So mandatory vaccinations ARE totalitarian, and run against all the principles that democracies and free societies are based on.

    If we do not learn that lesson from Nazi Germany then we really are going to repeat that tyranny. Indeed, the same Nazi Germany that you rightly condemn for its forced euthanasia program was also found guilty in the Nuremberg Trials for its forced medical treatments and experiments. ALL these things were evil and condemned at Nuremberg. You really need to be consistent here!

  5. This is very true. Germany in 1933 introduced health passes determining who was Aryan and who was Jew. It had to be carried everywhere. Many lost their jobs, businesses were told not to serve Jews or face punishment, businesses and other establishments became henchmen for the regime. Law enforcement officers went around the streets demanding papers and went around trying to find who had served the undesirables or kept undesirables sheltered. The Jews were unable to go to schools as even children were given passes. Only those with the ‘right’ pass had rights. Everyone else was considered undesirable and a threat to the nation. The government determined who had rights and who did not. Businesses who it was found were serving Jews were dobbed on and severely punished. Neighbors dobbed on neighbors. Then this all turned into stars, camps then the final solution. Governments now in Australia telling businesses whom they cannot serve is abhorrent. The vitriol and dehumanization from prominent people in the media is dangerous frightening territory.

    Many choosing to have the vaccines do not support this discrimination or apartheid but the rhetoric, threats, coercion and pressure is reaching pressure cooker levels.

  6. In addition to above Bill, did you read The Australian today? On page 19, the host of Seven Network’s Sunrise, (David Koch) is refusing to have his makeup done by anyone unvaccinated. He is very firmly and in very matter of fact language saying keep the unvaccinated away from me. He also pushed for the AFL to have Covid safe passes next year-keeping unvaccinated out of stadiums.

    You were so right in what you said about totalitarianism being implemented in stages. I saw a YouTube video titled Its Just

    It’s just two weeks
    It’s just a mask
    It’s just non essential businesses
    It’s just till we get a vaccine
    It’s just social distancing
    It’s just schools
    It’s just churches
    It’s just the mandates
    It’s just for your own good
    It’s just to keep us safe….
    It just must be forced for their own good for the greater good

    Then it is- it’s just to keep undesirables out
    It’s just to protect our staff and others from pollution and germs
    It’s just to protect us from subhumans
    It’s just these people don’t have rights
    It’s just needed to be done
    It’s just I want that business destroyed for serving those people
    It’s just dobbing and we need to find these people
    It’s just police
    It’s just papers
    It’s just camps and roundups
    It’s just (ended up being extermination)

  7. Dear Bill,
    Thank you for the warning article. You are so right! I hear that Hazard and he has the most suitable name has already suggested that the unvaccinated not being allowed to go to church and is having discussions with Archbishop Fisher and other church leaders. This is absolutely unadulterated tyranny so let’s hope that the church leaders stand firm on this.

  8. Bill, thanks for another timely message from the co-pilot “…captain you must listen!”.

    I have a cousin who pastors a large church in Melbourne, during a polite conversation over a family matter I asked what his stand would be if the Andrews government mandates certificates to enter his (the Lords actually)
    church. I didn’t get the answer I expected considering the churches orthodox and somewhat fundamentalist standing on other issues. His remark was those vaxxed can come to church, those un-vaxxed can stay at home and watch online!

    He is now going to get an email from me with a link to this article, I pray the lights come on for many in church leadership who haven’t joined the dots to where this is heading.

    PS. Captain you must listen.


  9. As to that media-type who said that he won’t get his make-up or whatever done by an unvaxxed person, what the world needs is a vaccine against people like him and the media, because that is the only vaxx I would take. They are the real plague and pestilence on this planet and along with communism, there should be a Nuremberg-type trial for the media for they have done in the last 80 years or so going all the way back to Walter Duranty. Just wondering if the left keep pushing things, there will be some type of Rwandan massacre, because things cannot keep going on like this.

  10. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism, whether then, now of tomorrow share the same intent, means, efficiencies and purpose as their utopian ideology really offer no more than hell on earth. Such is the human behavior of atheistic ideologies.

  11. Thank you Bill for another sobering article and yes it seems we are living in times similar to 1930’s Germany.

    Australia is becoming a very dangerous place to call home.

    – We’ve been sold the idea that the late term killing of a baby in a mother’s womb is fair and just.
    – We’ve been de-married through a deceptive SSM campaign.
    – We’ve been de-sexed or de-gendered.
    – We’ve been robbed of our parental rights.
    – We’ve been sold the idea that state assisted suicide is humane and compassionate.
    – We’ve been robbed of practising our faith.
    – We’ve been restrained from making available psychiatric therapy or prayers to help those with gender confusion and who ask for such.
    – We’ve been conditioned to accept that it’s better for Drag Queens reading to our children than them receiving religious education.
    – We’ve been told we’re criminals if we speak the truth to our children and minors and recommend a wait and see approach regarding gender confusion instead of hurling them onto a pathway of life long drugs and body mutilation.
    – We’ve been constrained from political protest and free speech.
    – We’ve been robbed of our anonymity as we head toward a technocracy.
    – We’ve been de-socialised.
    – We’ve been de-platformed.
    – We’ve been coerced into taking jabs and experimental medicines.
    – We’ve been told that we are non essential and should be locked down.
    – We’ve been segregated based on our medical status.
    – We’ve been placed into two groups: Those who are clean and able to participate in society and the those who may be prevented from basic enjoyments such as travel, a restaurant meal, attend a theatre, the footy or a drink with our mates at the pub.
    – We’ve been informed by some industries that the jabbed have a job while the unjabbed will be jobless. 
    – We’ve been told that the Lord’s Prayer needs to be booted out of VIC parliament without valid reason.
    – We’ve been told that the COVID passport is coming.
    – We’ve been advised that this is all for our own good.

    Put simply, we’ve been had.

  12. Well if all this is true then where the hell is the church? I mean…I see lots of focus on looking after one another and ensuring people feel cared for and are provided with their basic needs but why oh why oh why is there scarcely a voice coming from the church critical of this encroaching totalitarionism?

    Would we be praising the church for feeding concentration camp prisoners but not actually opposing the Nazi regime and its grab for more and more power?

    Somethings not right here!!!

  13. This paragraph quote “In the Name of Public Health — Nazi Racial Hygiene” could be summed up by the trek saying “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one”. It is sad trek has taken a hard left turn lately.

    Know of any good books on prewar Germany?? Most people don’t about it so they balk at Nazi comparisons not really knowing much about the other than the holocaust.

  14. “…the truth will set you free.”

    Three truths that we know from even our limited scientific knowedge and so there is no excuse:-
    1. Unborn humans are still human and do, in fact, have feelings
    2. Homosexuals are not born that way
    3. The current crop of Covid 19 vaccines do not prevent the spread of the disease.

    Isn’t it amazing the massive edifices of injustice and immorality the wicked can build on such easily disproved thinking. They only ever win the argument by shutting down the truth but that is a tactic which must inevitably fail.

  15. Paul, Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas shows pre-war Germany. I found it in my local library.

  16. Hi Bill did you hear the speech made by the New South Wales health minister when asked about contact tracing. One of the things she mentioned in her reply was the new world order. She obviously did not mean to say it and she obviously was not meant to say it. But everything that has been going on is part of the new world order and the governments and politicians here in Australia are corrupt and are evil and are part of the new world order. That is why they are going along with the new world order agenda and that is why they have been imposing and enforcing and have been doing the things they have been doing. The one world government is coming very soon and Jesus is coming back very soon too. God bless you Bill and all the good work that you do informing and letting people know what is really and actually going on.

  17. Dear all,

    I have been wrestling with articulating a stream of logic to make it clear that the reason for lockdowns is not public health. While I think it is in fact clear, probably no-one will bother to follow my argument unless they already agree with my conclusion. It is a frustration of this debate that more often than not it’s not a debate, usually it’s simply a yelling match where no-one is listening. I also find myself wondering if indeed there might a valid argument for protecting the health system from overload. It’s not immediately obvious that this won’t be an issue if we allow society to go back to complete freedom of movement.

    To add to this is my concern for the health of my wife and two young kids. I find I oscillate a little in my confidence in leading my family in our position, being opposed to each of the public health covid measures. Yes, each of them.

    With all this going around in my head I found it reassuring to remind myself that despite all the pressure being applied, some of which I’m feeling, the fact is that there are some great scientists that make a very compelling case for the the vaccine being unnecessary, ineffective and unsafe.

    A couple of great resources I have found helpful:


    Check out this bit of logic from Ivor Cummins – Viral Reality Check – What’s going on, but with real logic and science

    Be encouraged.

  18. Thanks again Bill, and thanks Petar Kenda. Is it OK to pass this on? PS. I was born in 1938, hardly a “very good year,” though I’m not sorry I was born.

  19. Paul, another book suggestion is Travellers in the Third Reich – The Rise of Fascism through the eyes of everyday people.

    Julia Boyd is the author.

  20. Thanks again Paul, Gail and Andrew. There are plenty of books on how the Nazis came to power and why so many ordinary Germans supported them. Here are just a few of them:

    Julia Boyd, Travelers in the Third Reich: The Rise of Fascism, 1919-1945 (Pegasus, 2019)
    Christopher Browning, Ordinary Men (HarperCollins, 1992)
    Richard J. Evans, The Coming of the Third Reich (Penguin, 2004)
    Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust (Knopf, 1996)
    Benjamin Carter Hett, The Death of Democracy: Hitler’s Rise to Power and the Downfall of the Weimar Republic (Henry Holt, 2018)
    Eric W. Johnson and Karl-Heinz Reuband, What We Knew: Terror, Mass Murder and Everyday Life in Nazi Germany (John Murray, 2004)
    Shirer, William, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany (Simon & Schuster, 1959, 2011)

  21. Some of what we have seen made me think of China rather than Germany. My problem was not with encouraging vaccination. Overseas travel used to require vaccinations. I had to have a yellow book when I first went to Thailand. Nurses were expected to have some routine vaccinations. What Shocked me was the treatment of the peaceful protesters.

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