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Why Don’t We Just Shoot Those Lousy Christians?

Oct 24, 2010

The amount of frenzied anti-Christian bigotry is increasing by the day, with PC zealots working overtime to harass and persecute Christians any way they can. And all this is aided and abetted by the state which is becoming increasingly secular, anti-Christian, and irrational.

Examples are around by the truck-full. Every day new outrageous cases come to light. And all this is taking place in what is supposed to be the free and democratic West. The West, once the bastion of Christian belief and morality, is now becoming the fortress of ruthless anti-Christian hatred.

Consider the latest case of mind-numbing stupidity and anti-Christian zeal. A woman who advertised in a church for a Christian roommate now has to face a court case for her outrageous behaviour. Yep, can you think of anything more horrific and dastardly than that? A Christian actually daring to ask for a Christian roommate!!

This is how the media has covered the story: “A civil rights complaint has been filed against a woman in Grand Rapids, Mich., who posted an advertisement at her church last July seeking a Christian roommate. The ad ‘expresses an illegal preference for a Christian roommate, thus excluding people of other faiths,’ according to the complaint filed by the Fair Housing Center of West Michigan.

“‘It’s a violation to make, print or publish a discriminatory statement,’ Executive Director Nancy Haynes told Fox News. ‘There are no exemptions to that.’ Haynes said the unnamed 31-year-old woman’s case was turned over to the Michigan Department of Civil Rights. Depending on the outcome of the case, she said, the woman could face several hundreds of dollars in fines and ‘fair housing training so it doesn’t happen again’.”

There you have it folks. In ‘Christian’ America you will now be fined if you simply state your preference for a Christian roommate. Not only that, but you will have to go through state-sponsored re-education camps to wash such horrific and nasty ideas out of your miserable brain.

Isn’t it great that the state is so concerned about all this that it will take such steps to ensure that no Christian dares again to commit such a despicable crime? Of course the state is being a bit slack here. It is only doing half its job. Why not go all the way?

What the state should be doing is now making it illegal for Christians to be allowed to have Christian roommates. To really ensure a diverse and tolerant culture, the state should now decree that all Christians will have to be paired up with atheist roommates, or with Muslim roommates.

After all, the state must weed out every ugly hint of discrimination, so we must teach those stupid Christians a lesson. Indeed, why stop there? Why not force all Christian churches to have Hindu pastors, or secular humanist youth leaders, or witches for counsellors?

Indeed, why doesn’t the government stop beating around the bush? Why doesn’t it get really serious about the Christian problem? Perhaps every believer should be branded with a cross on their foreheads. Their businesses could be shut down. Their Bibles could be confiscated and burnt in public squares.

Indeed, maybe just put them in boxcars and haul them off to concentration camps. Maybe just line them up and shoot them all. Of course we have witnessed this sort of thing happen before. History is replete with such examples of state-sponsored persecution.

It all starts in small, incremental steps. A little bit of bigotry here, a tiny bit of repression there. Soon the entire work of hard-core persecution was well underway. By then of course it was too late to do anything about it. The small steps inevitably lead to bigger steps, until the momentum of the whole program is too great to stop.

When little freedoms are undermined or whittled away today, it will be that much easier to do the same to bigger freedoms tomorrow. And when Christian freedoms are attacked in small ways today, they will be even more ferociously assailed tomorrow.

And the sad thing is, when the repression and bigotry is in the early stages, very few will speak up and make a stink about things. But when the persecution is really moving along nicely, then there will be little room to move, and little scope for protest.

We need to learn the lessons of history here. If we do not speak out loud and clear in the early days, we can kiss the future goodbye. Only by being alert and vigilant now can we protect our freedoms. Freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, and freedom of speech are all very great goods which we dare not take lightly.

To lose them is to lose it all. And we are well on the way to losing it all. But the scariest thing about all this is that while so much anti-Christian bigotry is taking place, so few Christians seem to know about it or care about it. We are allowing the assault on the church to take place by saying and doing nothing.

We have had voices from the past warning us about this very thing. Let me cite one such voice. We dare not ignore what he had to say. The costs are far too great.

“In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.” (Martin Niemoller, German pastor and Holocaust survivor)

www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/22/civil-rights-complaint-filed-christian-roommate-advertisement/

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40 Responses to Why Don’t We Just Shoot Those Lousy Christians?

  • “And all the world marvelled and followed the beast. So they worshipped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, ‘Who is like the beast” Who is able to make war with him?’ It was granted him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If anyone has an ear, let him hear.” (Rev.13:3-4, 7-9)

    And from Pilgrim’s Progress (Bunyan)
    Christian and Faithful enter a town called Vanity Fair, who when one of the townsmen asked them, “What will you buy?” they replied, “We will buy the truth!” Then a commotion ensued, and word came to the ruler of the town and took the men into custody and questioned them. They were then put on trial before the town magistrate, Lord Hategood. Three witnesses were called to testify against them: Mr Envy, Mr. Superstition, and Mr. Deception. The show trial was a foregone conclusion, and the jury retired: Mr. Worthless, Mr. Malice, Mr. Lustful, Mr. Liveloose, Mr. Heady, Mr. Highbrow, Mr. Enmity, Mr. Humbug, Mr. Cruelty, Mr. Judas, and Mr. Obstinate. When they were alone in the jury room, they all expressed their opinions, and the jury reached a verdict of guilty, and recommended the death penalty. Judge Hategood heard the verdict, and set the day of execution, whereupon Faithful was burned at the stake.

    Bill, while Bunyan was commenting on events during the C17th Restoration period, those circumstances are now returning, albeit under a somewhat different guise.

    We would do well to understand the Book of Revelation, and re-read Bunyan!

    Murray R Adamthwaite

  • Following this line of thinking, Christian (and Jewish and Muslim) dating sites will soon be deemed discriminatory and off limits, too. Exclusively searching for a Christian (or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist) mate does not promote diversity or multiculturalism. As a matter of fact, why not simplify it all and just go ahead and pick our mates for us? If we’re presently with the wrong partner and they have to rectify our mistake, so be it.
    Kendra Mallock

  • I suggest as many of us as can should post ads for Christian roommates in Michigan and see what happens. There are certainly plenty of physical billboards and online at relevant websites that likely will be unaware they suddenly are not permitted to do so. This strikes me as a perfect opportunity for making a stand through peaceful civil disobedience.

    Let’s sit in the front of the bus and see what they do.

    Martin Kite-Powell, US

  • Thanks Martin

    Yes great idea. Let them arrest half the state’s population!

    Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

  • Talk about “Police State” !
    Jeremy Woods

  • A wonderful, stirring and thought-provoking article, Bill! It should be thumb-tacked in a prominent place on every church notice-board, in every church in Australia! Christians are going to have to take to the streets to show the world that they are NOT going lay down and take this sort of thing, until some of the craven MPs see that we are VERY SERIOUS and take up our cause!
    Kenya Lowther

  • Go Bill… Count it all joy…. We are now entering an era where our rights are deliberately undermined. Those who speak out will become the next generation of “Nelson Mandelas”, “Martin Luther King” etc… I for one will stand WITH you… (You already know I’m already fighting on the front lines).

    Thanks Bill, you keep us on our “toes” – EXACTLY where we need to be (but on our knees in a literal sense).

    Paul Evans

  • Thanks again for a well researched article Bill. I’ll certainly ensure that it gets publicity in several churches in WA.
    I wonder how far away a similar policy is in Victoria when we see the Premier promising to give the gay community a greater say in shaping government policy, improve the rights of couples to have overseas or interstate marriages recognised in Victoria, and provide more funding to stamp out homophobia in schools.
    Mr Brumby has stopped short of reversing his long-standing opposition to same-sex marriage, despite pressure from within his party and the fact it is a key issue for many voters, particularly in the inner city where the government is under threat from the Greens.
    With just over five weeks before the poll, the government will today move to reassert its social justice credentials with a $2.5 million plan that pledges to:
    ■ Review the Adoption Act 1984, which prevents same-sex couples from adopting children.
    ■ Create a government advisory committee to advise cabinet on key issues affecting the gay community, and provide $400,000 over four years for a peak body to represent its interests.
    ■ Reform the law so couples who marry overseas can have their relationship – though not their marriage – registered in Victoria.
    ■ Allow partnerships to be legally registered even if only one partner is connected to Victoria (at present, both have to be).
    ■ Strengthen laws against homophobic harassment, and invest $100,000 over four years in a campaign designed to reduce attacks on gay people.
    ■ Require all government funding and service agreements to adhere to the Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities, meaning government-funded bodies will no longer be able to discriminate on the basis of sexuality or gender identities.

    What other legislation against Christians is in the agenda?

    Indeed, what have the Greens yet to reveal as they exercise undue power in the Federal Arena?

    Roy Ford

  • Thanks Roy

    Yes I have just written up this alarming attack on Christian freedoms by the Brumby Government: www.billmuehlenberg.com/2010/10/23/more-attacks-on-our-christian-freedoms/

    Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

  • To say that the ad expresses an illegal preference for a Christian room-mate, thus excluding people of other faiths is a nonsense made by yet another of the burgeoning number of frightening morons who find themselves in a position of power. Some “useful idiot” (as Lenin would say) saw the ad in the church (how such a person could be in the church beggars belief – I would guess someone from a “rival” faith) and reported it to The Authorities. Obviously such a sensitive matter as sharing a room with a stranger necessitates having something in common from the get go and yet there is this huge disconnection with common sense as some anonymous person reports someone else to start up the machinations of the letter of the law and after time-wasting, expense and upset people, the matter will be thrashed out and it will be ruled that there is no case to answer. It’s alarming how many small authorities and councils make these over-zealous rulings but I think it is only a matter of time – when the consequences of their actions become clear, before they run their course and people will be required to use their intelligence rather than the box-ticking mentality. The net result of this political correctness is that it atomises societies rather than brings them together and in my opinion is all down to the politics of envy. Fortunately we are not yet automatons who march to the military band of the State.
    Rachel Smith

  • Bill, you also gave us this in a previous article of yours:

    ‘Another important voice in this regard is TS Eliot (1888–1965). The American-British poet and critic wrote an important volume in 1948 entitled, Notes Towards the Definition of Culture. His thoughts are well worth recalling: “If Christianity goes, the whole of our culture goes. Then you must start painfully again, and you cannot put on a new culture ready made. You must wait for the grass to grow to feed the sheep to give the wool out of which your new coat will be made. You must pass through many centuries of barbarism. We should not live to see the new culture, nor would our great-great-great-grandchildren: and if we did, not one of us would be happy in it.”’

    David Skinner, UK

  • Bill, your example is bizarre. Here’s one of my own. I am a member of an orchid society that issues a monthly newsletter. More than a year ago I received an issue that had an article on the evolution of orchids. At the end of the article there was an anti-Christian rant libelling Christians as mentally ill and abusing children. I thought this hate speech most inappropriate for our “scientific” journal. I complained to the president of the society who said he was a Christian and couldn’t see anything wrong with the article. I kid you not. I showed it to an atheist friend who said he couldn’t see anything wrong with the article either. I then spoke to the editor who said he borrowed it from the Internet without amendment. None of these men were concerned at the publication of an anti-religious slur and blatant factual error in a journal devoted to botany.

    This brings me to an interesting question. If you advertise for a Christian room mate, will you get what you expect? Let us hope that it would be something better than the nominal Christian mentioned above.

    John Snowden

  • Rachel apart from useful idiots there are malicious individuals who go around spying and telling tales in order to create as much mischief and grief as possible. And of course there are equally malicious officials who are prepared to believe them.

    On Her Majesty’s coat of arms that still (just about) hangs throughout the Commonwealth and which is also stamped on my passport, there are two Latin mottos: “Dieu et mon Droit” and “Honi soit qui mal y pense.”

    The latter means “Let he who thinks ill there be shamed,” or “Evil be to him who evil thinks.”

    But the sheer madness of this case is that no one will be able target a specific potential receiver or deliverer of goods and services for fear of discriminating against black, left legged, deaf, transgendered, Muslim, gypsy geriatrics.

    We are equally and uniformly the same.

    David Skinner, UK

  • John Snowdon

    In a similar vein, i just listened to an interview on abc radio, with David Suzuki. All caring all concerned about the world and with a flick of his tongue, declared we all came from Africa 50 thousand years ago. He doesn’t boast of being a christian, but the frightening thing is people listen to him.

    Daniel Kempton

  • Come on folks, it’s time to retaliate. Lets all dig deep and provide financial support for those attacked in this way.
    Is there a similar Australian group to “The Alliance Defense Fund”?

    The next thing is for some clever legal eagles to find a way to attack the attackers. Find a law somewhere where the person doing the mischief in the first place is charged with an appropriate offence. If there is nothing obvious I’m sure there are still some outdated sneaky forgotten laws hidden away that we can wrap the knuckles of the rampant anti-Christians.

    Fortunately in this case there is an exemption for the owner occupier to still make this sort of request for a room mate.

    564.301 Exclusions. [M.S.A. 26.1300(301)]
    Sec. 301. Section 201 does not apply:
    (a) To the rental of a housing accommodation in a
    building which contains housing
    accommodations for not more than 2 families living
    independently of each other, if the owner or
    lessor or a member of his family resides in 1 of the
    housing accommodations.
    (b) To the rental of a room or rooms in a single family
    dwelling by the owner or lessor if he or a
    member of his family resides therein.

    Max Stam

  • Strange how there’s this bias against Christians wanting to be with like-minded people, yet Muslims get to have their own toilets, prayer rooms in schools and universities, and even separate sessions in public swimming pools. You don’t hear the authorities complaining about that.

    Why isn’t it also wrong for them to want to be with like-minded people?

    Pam Renton

  • Thanks David, the one cap fits all is quite mad. I was heartened to hear of two incidences where the equality agenda has been publicly challenged recently – (1) the teacher who declared at the Conservative conference it was hindering the progress of under-achieving African-Carribbean children and (2) a community worker on LBC radio talk show today who said it hindered the rehabilitation of gangsters involved in black-on-black killings and details such as a largely Christian spiritual background should be recognised and used as a route to healing the problem.
    However, I take your point about the malicious individuals who snoop and report (as encouraged by UK councils). This has chilling echos of Nazi Germany as Hitler rose to power.
    Rachel Smith, UK

  • “Why Don’t We Just Shoot Those Lousy Christians?” – they will, Bill … in a short time, they will. But they tried that about 1800 years ago … and look at the result! (some people never learn).
    John Thomas, UK

  • Max I would if could

    I share your thoughts, it infuriates me that no one with the expertise is steeping forward and tackling even one of these incidents. Well maybe they are but I’m not hearing about it. I’m a mechanic, maybe I could offer free servicing to any lawyer willing to shed some light? On the other hand, Maybe we are doing all that is possible?
    Daniel Kempton

  • Rachel your point about “the malicious individuals who snoop and report has chilling echos of Nazi Germany” is extremely apposite.

    The Christian’s concern for upholding truth and compassion, for justice and mercy, is astutely perceived by our Marxist enemies to be both our strength and weakness. Like the martial art of ju-jitisu, we are forced use our own strength to destroy ourselves.

    The Christian’s tender conscience can be pushed to the extreme and encouraged into confessing not just a lack of love, compassion and care, but all manner of hidden hatred. The enemy is only too willing to assist us in beating ourselves up; but with Church leaders, accusing their flock of showing less than enthusiasm for homosexuality, who needs Satan? We must also remember that the ideologically driven homosexual, like Tatchell, does not seek our love, or even the love of God but unconditional acceptance of his drives and urges. We are emotionally blackmailed in to accepting their behaviour

    And like the show trials in Stalin’s reign of terror, hatred will be found and we will confess. Having shamed us into silence, Christians are already being forced to allow homosexuals to invade our communities, churches, schools, youth clubs and sitting rooms.

    www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6873922/Government-accused-of-encouraging-people-to-report-each-other-for-hate-crimes.html
    www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/12/10/schools-to-record-all-homophobic-sexist-and-racist-bullying/

    David Skinner, UK

  • I could be looking for someone too – so here’s the ad:

    Christian seeking Christian for flatmate – and not one of those woosy liberal ones either – prefer a working biblical knowledge but essential is a love for Godly truths. Reads Bill Muehlenberg’s blog and likes it.

    I’m thinking of sending it to The Age. On the up side at some point in the future such an ad may just get you rent-free accommodation and utilities paid for a few months! Every cloud… 😉

    Mark Rabich

  • Mark, I would not be so confident, if I were you, that you would not be presented with a bill for laundry, food, heating and use of the TV.

    David Skinner, UK

  • In Victoria you haven’t been allowed to advertise that you want to employ a Christian for a ‘non-religious job’ – even in Christian newspapers!
    Now with new laws passed this year, even advertising for a Christian in a Christian school you’ll have to prove it is an ‘inherent requirement of the job’…
    see www.smac.org.au/blogs/vicar/2010/04/equal-opportunity-law-revisited.html
    Jenny Stokes

  • One positive thing struck me as I read your article, with which I agree completely by the way. Provided the Christian is not then prevented from praying for and speaking to his/her room mate about Jesus – this could be a wonderful opportunity for evangelism. Sadly, after many years as a Christian and as a retired (but very busy) person, I have few non-Christian friends.
    Katharine Hornsby

  • If the position is relational why shouldn’t a person be able to state their preferences? May I ask for a pro-life doctor? May I ask for a pro-choice doctor? Is it wrong for me to want to see a counsellor/psychologist who holds the same basic core values as I do? How am I supposed to get well seeing someone who things sex is the answer to my problems if I am an unmarried Christian?

    We all apply prejudices. It’s just a matter of whether we can justify them as essential for the job or a hatred of a particular group of people.

    The mercy hospital only employs those willing to do abortions in it’s obstetrics area.

    I think one area we trip over is that some practising homosexuals claim to be Christians and are accepted in churches which makes it hard for the Bible believing Christians to say they don’t belong.

    Kylie Anderson

  • Is it also a crime for a young person to advertise to want to share with a young person, or a female to want another female? This crime of discrimination is usually set on age, gender or religion.
    Maybe you are allowed to use common sense or even compassion on the first two criteria but religion, or should I say Christian religion, is just anathema!
    Lesley Kadwell

  • There’s no reason why an atheist wouldn’t try to kill you. After all, if there’s no absolute morality, anything goes. This flies against the whole idea of a Christian community. Naturally people want to live with other people who share the same ethics and moral code. This is why responsible parents teach their children Biblical morality.

    Barbara Murray-Leach

  • When children are being led, in the belief that it is unfair to ban homosexual marriage, to say “ how would straight people feel if they were a minority living in a gay society and were not allowed to marry or express there straightness?” this is devilish subtlety and sleight of hand. By definition a straight society censures and constrains against adultery, fornication and promiscuity – not just Christian societies. It does not ask for extra freedom. Quite the opposite, it battles to maintain its purity and integrity. It imposes restriction and laws on itself. By contrast, the gays are imposing absolute freedom, no limits, moral and sexual anarchy. They lead the charge in smashing down the doors of modesty and chastity. They do not restrict or restrain. The Christians do not try to stop them. Go ahead but do not force us to conform to your perversions..

    So when Mike Adams puts in an ad to share a room with a promiscuous female heathen, there is no way he will be prosecuted, because anti discrimination means is good to discriminate against self control, purity and chastity but not against rampant promiscuity.

    www.peerproductions.co.uk/

    David Skinne, UK

  • What the Fair Housing Centre of West Michigan need to explain to the Christian woman is that the definition of room mate is limitless so as not to discriminate against cannibals, necrophiliacs, rabid dogs, turkeys and washing machines. All can be classed as room sharers. Likewise parents are now classified as intergenerational operatives and babies are mere products of conception and aborted babies are unwanted tissue. In fact the human being is nothing more than a sentient impulse engine.

    David Skinner, UK

  • Soon, it will be an offense to say on a dating site that you are searching for a “heterosexual” partner, because that will be deemed discrimination against homosexuals.
    Jereth Kok

  • Jenny Stokes wrote “Now with new laws passed this year, even advertising for a Christian in a Christian school you’ll have to prove it is an ‘inherent requirement of the job’…”

    Such laws were passed in QLD in 2002. A friend, the principal of a Christian school, makes a requirement of every job in the school, the ability and willingness to lead students and other staff in prayer and bible reading.

    This has worked well … so far.

    Graeme Cumming

  • Here in the USA we have a document called the Constitution. As a part of that Constitution, there is a set of amendments that are called the Bill of Rights.

    The very First Amendment clearly states,

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Apparently courts in Michigan have no respect for the Constitution.

    It is past time to return our Country’s Honor by honoring the the original intent of the Constitution and returning it to its rightful position as the Law of the Land. Pull hard at election time and vote for Constitutional Judges, and candidates for office that promise to respect, honor, obey and uphold the Constitution in your districts. Make Your voice heard at every opportunity, and donate to organizations that fight for legal rights of Christians.

    Can we coordinate, and through what means a few thousand people to commit Nationwide to run ads asking for a Christian Room Mate for at least two weeks? Any ideas on coordinating this?

    Wayne Cook, Oregon

  • This is just the most outrageous thing I’ve read in my life!

    If a case such as this actually played out in a court in front of me and not one of the officials had a grin or confused look on their faces while handling it, I would be certain they are a bunch of emotionless robots unable to respond consciously – which is exactly the sad state which this type of leigislation, and the acceptance there of, is heading. Crazy!

    Servaas Hofmeyr, South Africa

  • Wayne –
    To follow up on that idea: Obama has made recent quotes of the Declaration of Independence saying it thus, “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain inalienable rights…”. He purposely left out the phrase “…by their Creator…”. He’s done it at least twice so it isn’t an accident. So, it is a true representation of his heart and belief system because he is overseeing a systematic erasure of all references to the Heavenly Father from public and historical shrines, sites, documents and speeches.
    This is particularly attention arresting to anyone who loves freedom. The founders stated it that way to oppose the British crown’s position that King George had the right to give AND TAKE rights and privileges. What man gives man can take away.
    Either God bequeathes rights or men do from the human position of their governmental authority. If God does it then that is His irrevocable investment in mankind. If men award rights the men can limit or retract the rights.
    If God is removed from the formula then the only alternative leaves men to define what constitutes and limits others’ freedoms, equalities and privileges.
    Bet on it that any such “leader” will be just a little bit more free than those they rule. Historically, men who give or take positions of such absolute power begin to think that they are “god” or god’s exclusive-earthly-assistant and require exclusive worship from every subject they rule.
    Mike Stafford

  • It is the Christian values and the founding of America, with them that made us the greatest nation in the world. It is the atheists, agnostics and other non-Christian faiths that have torn us apart, to this kind of nonsense we find going on these days….Evil is evil and it is running rampant and they WILL see the outcome of their stupidity….wake up HE IS COMING!
    Ruth Hammons

  • “Where orthodoxy is optional, orthodoxy will sooner or later be proscribed” – Neuhaus Law.
    Father Richard John Neuhaus, RIP 2009, founder of First Things.
    Julian Desouza

  • Very well written, Thank you.
    Ray Burton

  • christians need to quit promoting hate

    Bobbie Jo justice

  • Thanks Bobbie Jo

    Anti-Christian bigots need to quit promoting lies. Indeed, let me call your bluff here: we did not start this fight – you guys did. If homosexual militants want to destroy marriage and family, and squash altogether freedom of conscience, free speech, and freedom of religion, then those under attack have every right to stand up and resist such vicious assaults. By your perverted reasoning the homeowner who seeks to protect his wife and kids from a gang of thieves, rapists and killers is promoting hate. Yeah right – go figure.

    Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

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