Seducing the Churches

Infiltration is often more effective than outward assaults. If you can sneak into that which you are seeking to destroy, you can usually accomplish your goals more easily and efficiently than trying to wear it down from without. All revolutionaries have been aware of this strategy.

The Communists for example were delighted that so many gullible and naive Westerners actually did their work for them, promoting the goals and philosophy of Communism while denigrating the West. The Marxists just sat back and laughed, rubbing their hands with glee.

Lenin referred to such Western stooges as “useful idiots”. They certainly were useful and they sure were idiots. We see this working out elsewhere. For example there are plenty of Western stooges who are siding with militant Islam, and pushing their blood-thirsty ideology for them.

They denigrate the West while being apologists for Islam. They too are useful idiots. And all this is carefully orchestrated and planned. It does not come about by accident. Indeed, last century the Italian socialist Gramsci spoke about the “long march through the institutions”.

By that he meant the West could readily be taken over and destroyed by getting the revolutionaries to work within their own institutions: politics, law, the media, the universities, and even the churches. White-ant these from within, and no outward show of force will be necessary.

It has been a brilliant strategy and it has worked very well – not just with Communism and Islam, but with other radical revolutionary groups as well. And one of the most active of such groups today is the militant homosexual lobby. They have long known that to conquer the straight West, they must take over from within all the key institutions of power and influence.

And they have certainly targeted the church big time. Indeed, this has been an openly stated goal of theirs for decades now. They know that if they can silence the churches, their job of bringing about the complete transformation of society in their radical image will be complete.

So the activists are working overtime to conquer the Christian church with their theological revisionism and bogus “gospel”. They want to get believers to doubt their own Bibles and long-standing Christian beliefs on this issue, and fully capitulate to their agenda of iniquity.

I have documented this time and time again, including in my detailed book, Strained Relations. Well, here we have another prime example of this. It is as mind-boggling as it is in your face: a real case of satanic subversion in operation.


As one article states, “Fifty hand-picked Christians were part of a seminal conference last week planned by Matthew Vines, a 23-year-old gay Christian who believes Scripture allows for monogamous homosexual activity, in an effort to spread the idea in the American church over the next decade.

“Vines says he has had success in convincing lay members of churches over the last year that monogamous homosexual activity is allowed by Scripture, but is encountering resistance from Scriptural scholars. He is likely to encounter much more, say theologians.

“More than 100 people applied to participate in the four-day conference, though only 50 were accepted, and the chosen were required to rigorously study throughout the summer before the conference even began. Vines sent them 1,100 pages of dense, academic reading material, for example, to make sure they understood both sides of the issue before the event began last Wednesday.

“‘The goal of the conference was to be training Christians who are in churches that don’t currently support LGBT people and to give them the biblical tools and knowledge that they need to go back to their churches and have constructive, persuasive conversations with other believers on these issues,’ Vines told CP.”

Wow. Usually Satan does his work of deception and propaganda in a much more undercover fashion. Rarely do we get such a blatant and public disclosure of what the enemies of the church are seeking to do. So you don’t have to take my word for it any longer.

Here once again the homosexual activists are telling us in their own words that they are targeting the churches, seeking to sabotage the very gospel of God and replace it with their own sodomite gospel. They are not even being coy about this any longer, but are now arrogantly telling the world their plans of destroying the Christian church.

None of this should surprise us however. Jesus and the disciples warned us about this repeatedly. For example, Jesus said quite clearly that such false teachers would come, deceiving many: “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time” (Matthew 24:24-25).

Or as Paul warned in Acts 20:28-31: “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard!”

So we should be expecting such attacks from the enemy. Satan will never cease in his efforts to thwart the gospel, mangle the truth, deceive God’s people, and destroy the faith. That is his primary task, and he certainly has here at least 50 useful idiots doing his very bidding.

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34 Replies to “Seducing the Churches”

  1. This is to me more proof that we are in the period of time Revelation 20 refers to as the War of Gog and Magog. One of the hall marks of the Church Age/Millennium was that the Church taught unimpeachable teachings directly from Scripture. Satan couldn’t deceive the nations because he was bound by the truth, and a seal was set upon him making his lies obvious to the nations against the light of the Gospel. But now, Satan has been released and is being permitted to deceive the nations once again and they are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

    Ed Sumner

  2. Well written – have forwarded on – this is how the church will be sidelined in the coming decade.

    Ilona Sturla

  3. I never consciously realised that a lot of this was going on. We have to be ultra careful!

    Jo Deller

  4. Hi Bill,

    The infiltration within the Church is the biggest issue facing our society. It does not matter how many good politicians we have if the bishops and Church hierarchy are silent or weak. Until they are the strong leaders we need them to be, Christian families will be left floundering in a sea of darkness; small pockets of resistance relying on God’s mercy and protection.

    Thanks for your work and efforts.

    Bernie Gaynor

  5. It’s hard to keep commenting on Bill’s articles because my reaction is always “well done” and I’m sure most regular readers appreciate the frequent updates on the constant attacks on the truth that come increasingly from those who are supposed to be its guardians.

    As Christians we must “dare to be a Daniel” more than ever. We can’t judge people’s hearts, but we must assume that professing Christians who are denying the faith are not Christians at all.

    Thanks for your efforts, Bill.

    David Morrison

  6. Thank you Bill. I am spreading your message to people who are on the same wavelength and I agree that “we must dare to be a Daniel” as well.

    Jo Deller

  7. Thanks Bill. Now that the enemy is getting serious, why don’t we? It’s time to claim the upcoming generation before they are claimed by the dark side. I’ve been to so many churches where children’s ministry is just not taken seriously. We are evangelizing the world, as we should, but it’s time to fortify our churches, and especially the church of tomorrow. No point losing people to these deceiving wolves after we’ve worked so hard to bring them to salvation.

    Dee Graf

  8. Ed, so you’re saying you believe the anti-Christ has already come and been defeated and thrown intro hell? And you’re saying that Satan being locked up is not a reference to him being physically separated from the world so that he cannot communicate with it before later being released again one final time? I can’t agree with that. I firmly believe that a simple plain reading of the text ignoring the uninspired chapter and verse numbers and chapter headings (which were all added much later), places the millennium in the future. There is some room for disagreement on eschatological matters and I don’t believe any of us has proof to pinpoint exactly where we are at this time though we can have strongly held convictions.

    One could also consider that while the West is being deceived in a number of other countries the church’s numbers are growing rapidly and many who were once deceived are being opened up to the truth.

    I’m sure if I thought about this some more I would come up with a number of further points.

    However the point of this article is to report what is unambiguously happening now by some of those seeking to destroy the church from within. That they will go to such great lengths to further their ends should be a great challenge to us to put the time and effort in to stand up for what is right.

    Matt Vinay

  9. Well Bill, Here one article from CARM tackling Vines:

    Chris Jim

  10. I have just watched the documentary by Curtis Bowers, Agenda: Grinding Down America. It sets out the Marxist / Communist / socialist, etc world agenda and some of the graphics linking ‘leftist’ organisations are very helpful in seeing the big picture. It also identifies the infiltration of the church by socialists and homosexualists.
    Sorry, but I couldn’t attach a link. It is up on vimeo.
    God bless you, Bill.
    Mike Evans

  11. Regarding Gog and Magog. Magog is a literal place pointing to parts of modern Turkey. Gog is referring to a literal ruler over Magog or a demonic power or prince behind that literal ruler. Possibly even Satan himself. The war of Gog and Magog is a literal war that takes place in the last days (Israels last days that is) when these forces come down from the north of Israel to wipe out the people of Israel that have been gathered from many nations after a long expulsion from the land.This happens when (present day) Israel is experiencing a (false ) peace, almost certainly as a result of entering into a peace agreement (called a covenant with death) with it’s surrounding enemies and supposedly enforced by a UN peace keeping force and the USA. You can read about it in Ezekiel 38 and 39. We need to be listening to what the Biblical prophets have told us in great detail and not speculating and applying various scriptures to the USA that specifically refer to Israel. Replacement theology has in the main blinded most of the church to what is happening right under their noses and released the spiritualizing of many scriptures that are to be taken at face value. We are now standing at the same place the early church stood with the imminent destruction of present day Jerusalem coming over the horizon. The one difference is now the very nations named in the bible are in place for the first time ever, ready to fulfill the exact details given us by the prophets thousands of years ago. As the late Art Katz astutely pointed out Israel is back in the land for it’s necessary destruction. But the church is mainly blind to it, and even imagining that it will somehow mysteriously be caught away in an equally blinding false teaching.

    Robert Withall

  12. Thanks guys

    Of course this post was about one thing: the homosexual seduction of the churches. Thus those who want to once again drag out their pet eschatology beefs are a bit far afield here. It would make sense to argue the pros and cons of eschatological minutiae under posts of mine that in fact discuss biblical prophecy, the end times and the like. And as I have said here often before, there is in fact room to move on these matters, and one does not need to go to the wall over one’s pet theory. So let’s please get back on topic here thanks. But thanks for your thoughts.

    Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

  13. So many people try and say that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is not about homosexuality an yet they can’t contend with the a very similar passage in Judges 19:22-30. It is just simply hypocrisy that they are trying to justify homosexuality, when it is clearly condemned by the Bible.

    Ian Nairn

  14. To Mark Wong, praise God that the archbishop in WA appears to be taking a stand against this, I emailed him last night and exhorted him to stand by what the Scriptures say, so hopefully he got a few hundred messages in the same vein and that might have influenced him even more. If only more Christians would do this type of stuff, imagine the results!

    Steve Davis

  15. I blame subjective interpretation of the bible for this chaos. There is no standard unfortunately. Something so blatantly disapproved of in the bible still pushes people into opposing camps (no pun intended)
    We must put all of our energy into the belief that a God who knows the beginning from the end did in fact provide us with an instruction manual for all times, not just all tongues
    The reference to Mr Vines in both articles however adds to the confusion. He is NOT a Christian quite simply. Someone who is Lebanese or Irish will always be that regardless of where they go or what they do
    There is a choice to follow Jesus as He desires, and like so many others, Vines does not.
    Dameon McManus

  16. Steve, many would take action but perhaps we need help in how to navigate the technology to do this. When your’e approaching 70 I still prefer a call or postage stamp. 🙂

    Ilona Sturla

  17. In one sense I am happy about the activity of the homosexual lobby upon that which is termed the ‘Christian church’ as before it became too aggressive they were already apostate the Word of God in many areas and seeking friendship with the world.

    The push of the homosexual issue simply brought them to light and gave many of us who contend for the faith a solid showing of being able to deem them as apostate and lost to the rest as morality is a fundamental Christian basic and foundation, if you lose such you lose the authority to deem yourself Christian.

    Fact is, if someone gets the homosexual issue wrong, they had major problems to start with, its too clear from scripture and not up for debate.

    Dorian Ballard

  18. Fair enough Ilona, when I said if only more Christians would do this type of stuff, I was referring to the act of actually contacting him regardless of the mode of communication, I suspect that a posted, hand written letter would suffice quite nicely so if you have not already done it then I would strongly encourage you to do so. All the best Ilona.

    Steve Davis

  19. Hi Bill, I don’t believe that this is a fight against people, it is a spiritual fight and I think if the whole nation of Christians got together on a special day of each month and prayed I believe this would pull down the world’s kingdom of strongholds and just as at Jericho the enemy will fall.

    Joan Hall

  20. It is of course both Joan.. There are real people pushing real evil agendas on various levels who need to be resisted. But it certainly is a spiritual battle as well. So we need to fight on all levels: spiritual, political, social, theological, etc.

    Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch

  21. If ministers would only follow the Bible in relation to these wolves in rainbow sheep’s clothing they would be better able to stand.

    A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
    Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. (Titus 3:10-11)

    If any of those 50 were to enter into a church that obeyed the above scripture, they wouldn’t be there for long if they kept to their agenda as they would be quickly identified as enemies of the gospel and cast out.

    Mario Del Giudice

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