Umm, No He Doesn’t

Who doesn’t what? God. He doesn’t love people just as they are. In fact, he loves people too much to leave them just as they are. People just as they are are sinners alienated from God and headed for a lost eternity. A God of love could never just sit back and allow that to happen.

That is why Jesus came and died a cruel death on a cross for our sake, so that we don’t have to remain as we are, but we can become what we were meant to be. Yet we have too many clueless wonders, especially in the Christian camp, who think otherwise.

Thus we have yet another clueless and compromised “Christian” claiming that she is loved by God just as she is – as a lesbian. Yep, we actually have these folks making such sacrilegious and dishonest claims. I have written before about plenty of these Christian celebs and stars who publicly flaunt their sin and effectively tell God that he is a liar.

beeching 2This time we have Vicky Beeching (who I never heard of before) doing the same. So who is she? One newspaper report says this: She is “35, British star of the American Christian rock scene, one of the most successful artists in US mega-churches and now one of the most sought-after religious commentators in Britain.”

Heaven help us if she is a religious commentator. She is an apostate commentator leading potentially millions of people away from God, away from truth, away from holiness, and away from eternal life. And this article is a long sycophantic and emotive piece gushing all over her.

It is all about poor little Vicky. She has suffered so much because the church teaches that homosexuality is a sin. She has suffered so much because she has had Christians who have dared to tell her the truth about this. The article continues:

We meet twice. On the first occasion, Beeching, normally enlivening Radio 4’s Thought for the Day or any number of Sunday morning TV discussion programmes, sits opposite me in a café in Soho. She pushes a piece of paper in my direction. It is a précis she has written of her background: of growing up in a conservative Christian household in Kent, first in the Pentecostal Church then in the evangelical branch of the Church of England, of going to Oxford to study theology, of the EMI recording contract that sent her to Nashville 12 years ago and launched a successful singer-songwriting career… and then a line that jars and jolts. I turn the piece of paper over and look up to see her smiling nervously.
“I’m gay,” she says, confirming what is written. She has never said this publicly before – a handful of people in her private life know. She has only just told one her closest friends, Katherine, and Katherine’s father, Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury.
The enormity of the political ramifications of this disclosure scarcely have a second to sink in – a theologian who spends holy days with the Archbishop, whose God-fearing lyrics are sung by millions in America’s Bible Belt, coming out as a lesbian – before I begin to reflect on the implications for her personally.

The article goes on to say she will be “crucified” for coming out. Umm no, not at all. Instead she will be adored, praised and celebrated by millions, just like this clueless newspaper journalist is doing. She will be held up as a brave, courageous, inspiring and tolerant Christian surrounded by intolerant dinosaurs.

So spare us this crucifixion baloney. There is only one person who was crucified that we should be discussing here. It was Jesus Christ, who died on the cross so people like Vicky (and every single other person on the planet) could be saved from their damnable sins and set free to live a new life, a holy life, fully pleasing to God.

Yet all this person can do is whine about her difficulties, and about how she is so happy now to delight in her sinful lifestyle. Of course all she is doing is telling us that she in fact is not a Christian. Atheists and God-haters shake their fists at God and tell him he is wrong, and that they will call the shots and determine what is true and false, right and wrong.

No one who is a genuine Christian could ever do this. It would be a contradiction in terms. A Christian is a sinner who acknowledges that they are sinners, that they deserve the wrath of God, but have availed themselves through faith and repentance of the gracious offer of forgiveness based on the saving work of Christ at Calvary.

No true Christian hangs on to their sin, tries to justify it, and by doing so, calls God a liar, telling him he needs to get with the times. The article goes on and on about poor Vicky. She tried somewhat to change, but it just did not work for her, so obviously she was not meant to change.

Yeah right. So has she struggled and gone through hard times? Sure. But guess what? Every single person on earth struggles and goes through tough times. But humanity breaks down into two camps here: those who agree with God, acknowledge their sin, and seek, by God’s grace and with the help of the indwelling Holy Spirit to see real change take place, no matter how difficult and lengthy a process that might be, and those who don’t.

Vicky is in the latter camp. She tried a bit, it did not seem to work, so instead of agreeing with God and seeking him further for transformation, she puts up the white flag of surrender and says, ‘Yep. I was meant to be homosexual and God just loves me as I am.’

Um no. As I said at the beginning, God loves us far too much to leave us in our sin and degradation. He loves us enough to change us and set us free from our captivity to sin and self. But we have to agree with God first, and allow him to do his work in us, no matter how long and hard that may be. Indeed, sanctification is a life-long process.

So now we have her fully capitulating to carnality, compromise and deception: “What Jesus taught was a radical message of welcome and inclusion and love. I feel certain God loves me just the way I am, and I have a huge sense of calling to communicate that to young people.”

No he did not teach a radical message of welcome and inclusion. He told people to repent and turn from their sin, or face the full wrath of God to come. One simply has to read the gospel accounts without homosexual-tinted glasses on to see this.

Sure, he went out of his way to make those who saw their need as lost sinners feel welcome. He always took the extra step to such people. But his entire message of forgiveness and reconciliation is based on faith and repentance. Those who disagree with God about their sin simply cannot be forgiven.

It would be impossible for a holy and just God to forgive an unrepentant sinner. So does Vicky struggle with same-sex attraction? So what? Is God in the change business or is he not? Plenty of former homosexuals have found liberation and new life in Christ. Many report even having their orientation and disposition changed by God.

Even if the attractions stay, a true Christian recognises that God has called us to holiness and purity, and a life of celibacy is the only option for the sinner who has agreed with God that this is a sinful condition which keeps us out of the Kingdom.

But the good news is, as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, “such were some of you”. Some of you were homosexuals, or thieves, or adulterers (past tense). But you are no more, thanks to the transforming power of God. Vicky simply gave up on God. She stopped trying, and stopped letting God do his work in her life.

Thankfully God will not give up on her. His arms are still held out to her – and to all sinners. But his love and forgiveness is dependent upon us recognising our sin, turning from our sin, and embracing his reconciliation through faith and repentance. It does not work any other way.

Consider what she also said: “I just want to help anyone in that situation to not have to go through what I did, to show that instead, you can be yourself.” Being yourself is the last thing we should wish on anyone. Being ourselves means being rebellious sinners at enmity with God headed for hell. We want to be what God wants us to be, which is the exact opposite.

So we all can and should pray for Vicky. I am sure life for her is tough. But it is tough for everybody. And when you now, with a position of power and influence, tell lies to young people about the nature of God and sin, then you are causing tremendous and lasting harm. We can pray that she sees the light, and starts agreeing with God, instead of living in defiance of him and his Word, leading so many people astray.

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/vicky-beeching-star-of-the-christian-rock-scene-im-gay-god-loves-me-just-the-way-i-am-9667566.html

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23 Replies to “Umm, No He Doesn’t”

  1. Yes quite right Jo. If I were Satan, wondering how I could get millions of Christian kids to fall for lies and lose their faith, what could I do? I know! Get “Christian” celebs and pop stars to come out and tell them homosexuality is just peachy.

  2. It’s very sad and incredible to see that there’s been a strong change in attitudes in such a short time often led by so called Christians and helped by social media.

  3. What exactly does she think Jesus died for? To save her from WHAT exactly, if God is “OK” with what she’s doing?

    Someone needs to ask her THAT.

  4. Hi Bill, thanks again for your writings on the Biblical truth perspective. I briefly read the article you linked to by Patrick Strudwick in The Independent UK, I had to read through it quickly before my blood boiled over! it made me so angry! It’s clear the writer had a very obvious agenda, and by reading the comments other people picked up on this aswell. From my observations over the past few years, this “gay” issue is the Trojan Horse that Satan is using to worm his way into dividing the church within, and for people like that reporter to feel totally justified on “demonizing” the church. The Pastor of my former church was starting to preach that being a gay Christian for the rest of your life was acceptable, and he thought there was nothing wrong with “gay” marriage. Myself and others decided to leave that church because of his Liberal theology. If things keep going as they are, it won’t be long until true bible believers will have to meet in secret, like they do in China. Thank you Bill, I really appreciate your blog and your brave determination to keep telling the truth!

  5. The truth is that God accepts us the way we are because (thanks to Adam and Eve) we are all sinners, but to remain in the presence of God we must admit to and be forgiven of our sins. Which is why Jesus is our only mediator- He is the way to God through forgiveness and the first step to forgiveness of a sin is the admission that you have and or are committing the sin- which comes to telling the truth about our sins to ourselves and to God.
    If one can’t accept that one’s sexual practices are in fact sins, one cannot admit them to God and one cannot be cleansed of them.
    Sometimes this means a daily confession (“I die daily” Paul) – its not easy, but a complete submission to God to take control, daily, means these sins can be controlled.
    I struggle with sins such as pride, self-reliance constantly, but with daily admission and submission, they become easier to resist, each and every day- easier.
    Many people (homosexuals included) who genuinely want to be cleansed of all their sins expect an instantaneous “whoof, boom” miraculous healing, instantaneously and, while it may happen to some,to the rest of us, its a constant spiralling into and out of sin- as long as the spiral is upward, not downward we will eventually be free. A bit like beating an old habit really. And those who deny their sinning and publicly announce in fact that what they’re doing is not sinning, are being used by the enemy (the father of lies) to hide God’s truth. In some respects I feel a sympathy for the current homosexual, because they’ve been convinced by the secular lie that they have no choice and sexuality preference is innate. They can though, find the truth.
    Jesus is the way, the TRUTH and the life- which is why God hates the lie.

  6. I guess the problem with the political Gay movement is in their self-confession of being “proud to be gay- the term Gay Pride says it all.
    CS Lewis say pride as the greatest sin. It caused the fall of Lucifer form the angelic state to his current status.
    His thesis is
    “The vice I (Lewis) am talking of is Pride or Self-Conceit: and the virtue opposite to it, in Christian morals, is called Humility.… According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the utmost evil, is Pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere fleabites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind.”
    And
    “In God you come up against something which is in every respect immeasurably superior to yourself. Unless you know God as that—and, therefore, know yourself as nothing in comparison—you do not know God at all. As long as you are proud you cannot know God. A proud man is always looking down on things and people: and, of course, as long as you are looking down, you cannot see something that is above you.”
    So while the political homosexual movement continues to push the “gay pride” mantra, God will always be way out of the picture, and with out God,there is no hope of changing.

  7. So terrible! She must be so deceived. And proud. I don’t understand how people can think they’re Christians and be proud homosexuals. Who do they think God is? And what on earth do they think being a Christian is?

  8. Bill, I hadn’t heard of her either!

    It is worth noting that the author of this piece, Patrick Strudwick, is a gay activist who was responsible for the removal of Christian counsellor Lesley Pilkington from her professional bodies by devious and underhand means, pretending to be a client and then setting out to destroy her.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349012/Lesley-Pilkington-Gay-conversion-trial-halted-witness-intimidated.html

    By choosing such a person to do her ‘outing’ I can only imagine that she is doing a bit of political point-scoring.

  9. Many thanks indeed for that tip Jill. That certainly explains things doesn’t it? No wonder he was treating her like deity – he was simply pushing his own nefarious agenda. Thanks again.

  10. those who agree with God, acknowledge their sin, and seek, by God’s grace and with the help of the indwelling Holy Spirit to see real change take place, no matter how difficult and lengthy a process that might be, and those who don’t. Vicky is in the latter camp. She tried a bit, it did not seem to work, so instead of agreeing with God and seeking him further for transformation, she puts up the white flag of surrender and says, ‘Yep. I was meant to be homosexual and God just loves me as I am.’

    Bill, another point to add here is that the Law was given so that we might recognise our sin and our utter helplessness. Once we stop trying to do it in our own strength, we are able to turn to Jesus and accept HIS solution to our problem.

  11. Just wondering how a woman like this managed to get accepted into the “Christian rock scene” if the said rock scene was genuinely Christian in the first place. Sounds to me more like a David-Ike style New-Age performance….”hey, Jesus was all about lo-o-o-ve, so what the heck, I’m the same as you, I’m a person, just that I do some things a little differently…..” smoothing it all over to make folk feel that it’s not important cos “we are all One”. The Devil sure knows how to score hits.
    I don’t pretend to know anything about the Christian rock scene, but is it actually what it says it is? I somehow doubt.

  12. Apparently Dove Award winning artist Gungor have just announced they are into evolution and not creation amongst other things, their hero being Rob Bell. Need I say more.

  13. Hi Bill
    Sad to read about Vicky Beeching justifying her lesbian orientation and lifestyle with the deluded belief that God accepts her just as she is, continuing in this sinful and rebellious lifestyle. As you rightly state: “That’s why Jesus came and died a cruel death on a cross for our sake, so that we don’t have to remain as we are, but we can become what we were meant to be….” Unlike others who have commented above, I have heard of her – only because of one song in particular played on the Vision Radio Network by her, a beautiful song called “The Wonder of the Cross”. Terrible to think that, not only is she justifying her own sin, but is happy to encourage others who are of the same orientation to be themselves, and not avail themselves of the transforming power of the cross of Christ, and the Word of God in truth to change lives.

  14. I recommend that people watch the Channel 4 interview with Vicky Beeching and Dr Scott Lively [1]
    Vicky Beeching betrays an inner, relentless, stiff-necked, strutting and bulging -eyed, feminist rage against God, His Word and the Cross of Jesus Christ.
    In her arrogance she says, “We have not changed what the Bible says. We have just used our brains and hopefully God’s influence to reinterpret it.”

    Referring to the Bible, she says, “It doesn’t actually say what we think it says about human sexuality. We’ve got a lot of it wrong.”
    She also claims that this is the way she is wired. This is the way she is inside.
    What is remarkable is that she is still using fraudulent science and the false premise that there is a gay gene to justify her “coming out” when in fact the avant garde gays long ago gave up bothering to justify their behaviour.
    Bill wrote an article, “Homosexual Honesty” in which he quotes an Australian gay radical who said,
    “I think the idea that sexuality is genetic is crap. There is absolutely no evidence for it at the moment, and I think it is unhealthy that people want to embrace this idea. It does reflect a desire to say, ‘it’s not our fault’, as a way of deflecting our critics. We have achieved what we have achieved by defiance, not by concessions.” [2]

    Exactly, the homosexual condition apart from being demonic, defiant, delusional, deceptive and denying is a death wish.

    [1] http://www.channel4.com/news/they-made-me-feel-like-they-thought-i-was-demon-posessed
    [2] https://billmuehlenberg.com/2008/07/15/homosexual-honesty/

    David Skinner, UK

  15. Liz Darcy, not many Christians see this, but surely you are right when you say, “If things keep going as they are, it won’t be long until true bible believers will have to meet in secret, like they do in China.” Meanwhile they continue to sing turgid, maudlin, heart custard pumping, sentimental ditties that have become part and parcel of Sunday “worship.”

    The article by Dr Ted Williams on Music and New Calvanism has much to say about the state of so- called worship in many churches today

    http://www.newcalvinist.com/christian-rap-music-of-the-new-calvinists/

    David Skinner UK

  16. Jill Samson, yes, Patrick Strudwick is a truth-bender who has attempted to destroy professional qualifications of Lesley Pilkington. However what he says in this article in the Independent, is absolutely true. Vicky Beeching has scored a major hit for Satan:

    “The enormity of the political ramifications of this disclosure scarcely have a second to sink in – a theologian who spends holy days with the Archbishop, whose God-fearing lyrics are sung by millions in America’s Bible Belt, coming out as a lesbian – before I begin to reflect on the implications for her personally.”

    The ramification for the body of Christ and her personally are going to be devastating.

    David Skinner, UK

  17. WARNING. I apologise for this catalogue but I believe the Aussies are not of such a sensitive or delicate nature that they should not be introduced to some of Britain’s most powerful lesbians.

    Elly Barnes

    Sally Hitchiner
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10968977/Rev-Sally-Hitchiner-is-accidentally-outed-on-live-show.html

    Jane Hill

    Claire Balding

    Rev Sharron Ferguson
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00bqcs2

    Rev, Bishop, Saint Elizabeth Stuart
    http://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/culture/religious-studies/video-interview-catholic-bishop-elizabeth-stuart

    Angela Eagle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i928z0XXV68

    Sandi Toksvig

    Finally may I finish with our Home Secretary, Teresa May, who though not a lesbian – yet – is trying to explain why she has sold her soul to the devil?

    David Skinner UK

  18. Just something that I like to comment on, I hate how lesbians and homosexuals are often referred as two separate groups of people when they are not, lesbian and homosexual are the same thing and a lesbian is a female homosexual. It’s like referring to fat people and obese people as being two separate groups of people when they are in fact the same group of people.

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