Islam, Reform, and Traitors in Our Midst
Since the infamous 9/11 of 14 years ago there have been 27,401 Islamic terrorist attacks. Did you get that? These deadly attacks were not carried out by frustrated Baptists or disgruntled Buddhists. These attacks were carried out by devout Muslims in the name of Islam.
Earth calling Islam: we have a problem here. There is something really wrong with a religion – really a political ideology – which results in so much bloodshed, terror, hatred and violence on a daily basis. No other religion even comes close to this. Islam is in a class of its own when it comes to bloody terrorism.
As such, something must be done. Some voices are calling for the reformation of Islam. Yes, well that might be something worth contemplating. Obviously Islam V1 is not working out so well – at least for the rest of the world, for us infidels, etc.
However one might ask if this is even possible. Islam is regarded as a perfect religion, and the perfect final revelation of Allah. How can you reform that which is perfect? Indeed, the idea of reforming Islam is seen as blasphemous to faithful Muslims.
Moreover, Muhammad is seen as the perfect model, the ideal example of what every Muslim should aspire to and be like. So if Muhammad was a murderous warlord, personally involved in the killing of his enemies, the leader of a hundred armed raids, involved in polygamy and even marriage to children, then any good Muslim will seek to go and do likewise.
So how helpful is it to speak about reforming Islam? To reform Islam – meaning for most folks to strip it of its violent, misogynist, intolerant, anti-Semitic, and fascist elements – would be to basically destroy Islam itself. As William Kilpatrick rightly states:
Islam, not just radical Islam, is a threat to Christianity. The Muslim world can go through periods of quiescence in which Islam itself recedes into the background, but radicalism is part of the genetic structure of Islam. Any true “reform” of Islam is going to be of the “operation-was-successful-but-the-patient-died” variety. That is, if you were to eliminate all the violent, supremacist, and misogynist elements in Islam’s basic texts you wouldn’t have much left.
I have written about all this at greater length elsewhere: https://billmuehlenberg.com/2011/11/30/on-reforming-islam/
But we still have some Western leaders and even some Muslims speaking about reforming Islam. For example, just this past weekend in Washington DC some Muslims gathered to speak about the need for reform. As one report says:
It takes courage to stand up publicly to radical Islam, even if you’re Muslim. Maybe especially if you’re Muslim. Ask Asra Nomani. On Friday she and a dozen of her fellow Muslims went to the Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., and posted a declaration on the door denouncing violent jihad, rejecting Islamic statism and opposing the “ideology of violent Islamic extremism.”
The declaration announced the formation of the Muslim Reform Movement, an international organization aimed at countering the beliefs of Middle East terrorist groups like Islamic State in what the document describes as a “battle for the soul of Islam.” Was Ms. Nomani nervous? No doubt. But the recent bloodshed in Paris and San Bernardino, California, spurred by radical Islam has convinced her the Muslim community needs to confront frankly the connection between terrorism and religion, not deny that it exists.
So what are we to make of this? Well, if it is legit, and not just more taqiyya (Islamic justified deception), then we can applaud their efforts and wish them well. But note that only a dozen made this stand. As the article goes on to say:
Whether the Muslim Reform Movement can build support is another question. Groups of U.S. Muslims have periodically held anti-terrorism rallies and marches after high-profile attacks, but the events tend to draw crowds of a few dozen, according to Jihad Watch. “Given a chance to show how Muslims overwhelmingly reject ‘extremism,’ only a handful show up, and add in whining about ‘Islamophobia’ to their protest against the Islamic State,” said the Nov. 29 article in Jihad Watch.
Indeed. So we might have a way to go yet before masses of all those so-called moderate Muslims start speaking out. Voices closer to home have been making the same call, most notably Tony Abbott just yesterday. As one write-up puts it:
Tony Abbott has controversially called for a religious “reformation” of Islam, speaking out against a “culture” that “thinks you can kill in the name of God”. The former Prime Minister made the comments in a wide-ranging interview on the Paul Murray Live program on Sky News. Mr Abbott said not only did there need to be a military offensive, but also a “hearts and mind” offensive to tackle the rise of radical Islam while also calling for Australians to have greater confidence in Western civilisation.
“We’ve got to work closely with live-and-let-live Muslims because there needs to be, as President (Abdel Fattah) Al-Sisi of Egypt has said, a religious revolution inside Islam,” Mr Abbott said on the program. “All of those things that Islam has never had – a Reformation, an Enlightenment, a well-developed concept of the separation of church and state – that needs to happen, but we can’t do it; Muslims have got to do this for themselves, but we should work with those who are pushing in that direction.
“The other thing that’s needed is a restoration of cultural self-confidence in those who are supporters of Western civilisation. All cultures are not equal and, frankly, a culture that believes in decency and tolerance is much to be preferred to one which thinks that you can kill in the name of God, and we’ve got to be prepared to say that.”
All sensible enough, and well worth a try. But as stated, whether genuine reform of Islam is even possible is a moot point. However we should support all those with a genuine desire for much-needed change, both within and without the Muslim community.
However, no matter how sensible and vitally needed such remarks might be, as can be imagined, all the usual suspects have come out of the woodwork to angrily decry Abbott’s reasonable words. Indeed, there are dangerous and treasonous fools among us.
Consider one of our leading moonbat of the year contenders, Greens leader Richard Di Natale. He tore into Abbott, claiming he was “fanning the flames of division”! Yes he actually said that. Why do I suspect that if this guy was around in the 1930s he would have said the same about those with concerns about the Nazis? ‘Now Churchill ol’ boy, don’t you know we must just get along with Hitler, and not be so divisive?’
Another strong contender for the above-mentioned award has to be one of our most deplorable ex-politicians around, Kristina Keneally. In arguably one of the most moronic articles ever to disgrace the pages of the Guardian (already a thoroughly disgraced leftist rag), she said some utterly mindboggling tripe, beginning with these words of wisdom:
Jesus Mary and Joseph, Tony Abbott. Did you just tell Muslims that they need a theological reformation, like Christianity has had? I know it was some time ago that you were in the seminary, but surely you remember that the Reformation created Protestantism. You and I are members of the unreformed strain of Christianity, the Roman Catholic church. You and I and our 1.2 billion fellow Catholics around the world have had no reformation. We are part of a church that has steadfastly refused to embrace, in both internal structures and theological development, modern concepts like democracy or gender equality.
Yep, you read that right. Innocent men, women and children the world over are having their heads hacked off in the name of an archaic eighth century death cult, and all poor old Kristina can do is whine about sodomite marriage. Yep, makes perfect sense.
Um news flash Kristina: Christianity in all of its forms has always upheld the biblical truth that marriage is between a man and a woman – full stop. So there is absolutely nothing to reform here. Indeed, her idea of “reform” is nothing other than the destruction of historical Christian moral teaching.
She and Di Natale make such a great couple. But the rot does not end there. Even our own Liberal Party leader has gotten bent out of shape by Tony’s remarks. Of course given that he led a campaign to backstab and depose of him, it should be clear that he has utterly no respect for the man. As one report states:
Speaking on ABC local radio, the Prime Minister said Mr Abbott was entitled to his personal opinion. “It’s a complex area,” Mr Turnbull said. “Plainly the vast, vast majority of Muslims are as appalled by extremism, and particularly violent extremism, as we are,” Mr Turnbull said. “The extremism of ISIL or Daesh, these terrorists, is utterly rejected by the leaders of the great majority Muslim nations.
Turnbull should just join Kristina and move over to the Greens. They all share the same clueless and treacherous ideology. Turnbull has been pushing pro-Islam baloney for years now, and has never had the guts or the sense to call out Islam for what it is.
So that my friends is the reason why we are in such a mess today. A few Muslims and a few ex-PMs make some sensible remarks about there being a very real problem with Islam, and they get dumped on by the nutter dhimmis that infest not just the Greens and Labor, but the Libs as well.
This is why we are losing. This is why we regularly find blood on our streets. And this is why more Australians, and Americans, and Europeans will die while adherents of the religion of peace scream out their love cry, Allahu Akbar. With traitors in our midst, the jihadists just sit back and laugh. So much of their work is already being done for them.
I however will keep speaking out. We are in a war and we cannot remain silent. The price is too high for silence, cowardice or appeasement. As Egyptian-American human rights activist Nonie Darwish once rightly put it:
Western civilization has no idea that it is entrusted with the enormous responsibility of saving humanity. This is much more important than saving endangered species and more essential than stopping climate change, because if Islam wins, all such Western efforts will cease, because they are not Islamic values. The West must never be tolerant of an intolerant ideology that seeks to destroy it.
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There you have it from the horse’s own mouth, Kristina Keneally, said herself “….. You and I are members of the unreformed strain of Christianity, the Roman Catholic church. You and I and our 1.2 billion fellow Catholics around the world have had no reformation. We are part of a church that has steadfastly refused to embrace, in both internal structures and theological development. …..”
Roman Catholicism and now the Anglican Church are idolatrous and Deuteronomy 28 tells precisely that when that happens, it will be invaded by aliens who will take control.
Dueteronomy 28 says,
“25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth……
33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days……
36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone.
43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail…..
49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young…..
The rest of Deuteronomy 28 has a modern ring especially the bit about, ” 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children,……….56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter ..” I am thinking of abortion.
These things have come upon us because the Church has steadfastly resisted repentance – forget the reform. You cannot reform something which in its very nature is corrupt.
David Skinner UK
Thanks again Bill for a ‘well crafted’ article that helps greatly in telling the truth and keep readers up to date with what is happening. Yes, many of us listen to/read the same tripe as you have mentioned in this article and shake our heads. May we too have the courage to challenge these people about their ignorance and/or deliberate twisting of the truth.
Thanks Bill. Too many PC lefties open their mouths and parrot ‘tolerance’ but at the same time are completely ignorant of the depth of the problem.
Unfortunately they are going to have to find out the hard way.
The idea of reforming Islam is nothing new:
Sir William Muir – Victorian orientalist scholar, Cambridge 1881
Some, indeed, dream of an Islam in the future, rationalised and regenerate. All this has been tried already, and has miserably failed. The Koran has so encrusted the religion in a hard unyielding casement of ordinances and social laws, that if the shell be broken the life is gone. A rationalistic Islam would be Islam no longer.
Also the solution has been pointed out previously:
Joseph Ernest Renan – Philosopher, Writer, French expert of Middle East (1823-1892)
Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him.
I have an idea: Everyone who identifies him/herself as a ‘moderate Muslim’ should be required to study both the Quran and the Hadith (the two main Islamic texts), taking note of any references to violence, murder, prejudice, pedophilia, polygamy… and much more. For example, see the references in this article: http://janmorganmedia.com/2014/05/proof-islam-evil-violent-intolerant-straight-koran/
And then, when they have done that, let them explain why they choose to follow a religion when in fact they are not obeying the central tenets of that religion. The very words ‘moderate Muslim’ are a contradiction in terms. You cannot be a true Muslim and be a moderate. Their holy book says so!
Good on you Tony. You deserve better than the way you’ve been treated.
If Kristina Keneally had her way she would change the Catholic Church into a Leftist social justice outfit, with a bit of self-affirming religious piety thrown in for good measure, and probably stand for election as the first female pope. It was she who, when she was premier of NSW, introduced same-sex adoption laws to this state. It’s Catholics like her, who defy both God’s Law and Church Law but still publicly identify themselves as Catholic, who really get under my skin.
Thank you for the article. I will try to get hold of William Kirkpatrick’s book. It will be well worth reading.
Kristina Keneally is very wrong about the Catholic Church undergoing no reformation. It did not need to reform itself theologically because it has the fullness of the Christian faith but it badly needed reform in its practice because up to the 16th century it had become too powerful, worldly and even cruel at times. In England during the 250 years it spent underground after the Protestant Reformation it was forced to reform itself and many Catholics had their faith severely tested. It emerged after emancipation in 1829 better for its persecution as is always the case. It was because of this that it gained many famous converts such as John Newman and Frances Taylor who became a nurse in the Crimea and whose cause for canonisation has been introduced. She said the experience of witnessing the peaceful deaths of ordinary Irish soldiers wounded in the war influenced her decision to convert to Catholicism.
Kristina is also wrong about the Catholic Church not embracing modern concepts such as democracy and gender equality. Both are defined in Catholic social philosophy as based on the natural law. However, if she includes same sex marriage in her idea of gender equality which is obviously AGAINST the natural law the silly woman is barking up the wrong tree.
As Pope John Paul 2 said on a visit to England the Protestant reformation had come about because of faults on both sides. If he were alive today I really believe he would not be mincing his words about the true nature of Islam. When he was alive as William Kilpatrick says “Islam” can “recede into the background”. It was always a problem but never more so since 9/11 and modern technology and the appeasement policies of the MSM and Western leaders are not helping at all.
The truth needs to be admitted to and faced. It had to be done with Nazism and it will have to be done with Islam.
Well said, Chris! And thanks for those two valuable references. If you don’t mind, I’ll quote them on my FB page.
Thanks for this article, if only our politicians could heed it. There is another challenge for Australia coming soon. I have just read a pamphlet re. The DAWAH (muslim evangelism) Tour (no dates), which will visit all Australian capital cities and 22 major country centres over 30 days. They plan to run workshops, hand out a million pamphlets,100,000 Qurans, 10,000 dvd’s etc. their purpose is to convey the message of Islam and clear misconceptions. http://www.IREAWORLD.ORG has more information. Please pray against this. Alert your pastor to see what can be done to present the Christian message to them (I have a list of all the towns they will visit in their bus).
Hi Anne, please share quotes far and wide.
BTW here are some more:
Sir Winston Churchill – British Prime Minister wrote following in his book the River War : An Historical Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan published 1899:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
John Quincy Adams – 6th president of the United States
In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle.
Bernard Lewis – British-American historian
The penalty for apostasy in Islamic law is death. Islam is conceived as a polity, not just as a religious community. It follows therefore that apostasy is treason. It is a withdrawal, a denial of allegiance as well as of religious belief and loyalty. Any sustained and principled opposition to the existing regime or order almost inevitably involves such a withdrawal.
Voltaire – 18th century French philosopher and writer
“The Koran teaches fear, hate, contempt for others, murder as a legitimate means of spreading and preserving this satanic religion; it speaks badly of women, divides people by class, demands blood and more blood.”
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk – Father of secular/modern Turkey.
““Islam — this abstruse theology of an immoral Bedouin — is a rotting corpse which is poisoning our lives.””
Hilaire Belloc 20th century British writer and Historian:
“Since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, its adherents have been to all other nations as wolves and tigers, tearing and rending everything that fell into their merciless paws, grinding it up with their iron teeth.”
Karl Marx wrote, on the history of the Middle Eastern Question:
“The Koran divides the world into believers and unbelievers. The unbeliever is ‘harby’ that is, the enemy. Islam despises the nation of unbelievers and creates a condition of permanent hostility between Muslims and unbelievers.”
Thomas Jefferson 3rd US President, Diplomat and author of the American Declaration of Independence;
Jefferson had first hand experience with Islamic jihad, Thomas Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and John Adams, the American ambassador to Britain, were dispatched to London in 1786 in an attempt to resolve a piracy issue. They met with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the “Dey of Algiers” ambassador to Britain. It was during that meeting in London when Jefferson asked the Muslim ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation they had virtually no contact with at that time.
Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja stated:
“Islam was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Qur’an, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Muslim who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
Adolf Hitler admired islam and called Christianity weak because it used to put weight on the conscious of his followers.
“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”
Manuel II Palaiologos – Byzantine Emperor 1350-1425
Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached. God is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats. To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death.
Sir William Muir – Victorian orientalist scholar, Cambridge 1881
“Mohammed’s sword and the Koran are the deadliest enemies of civilization, truth and freedom ever encountered by humanity.”
Will Durant 20th century American writer, historian, and philosopher.
The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.
Mark Twain (Samuel Langhorne Clemens) 19th century American author
“…the emphasis placed on defining even the most minuscule details for a Muslim to follow serve as a tremendous example of how Islam thrives on replacing every last iota of independent thought with mindless servitude.”
As Mark Twain observed, “no wonder Mohammedans are insane.”
Benjamin Franklin – Statesman, Inventor, Writer, one of the founding fathers of the United States
“Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book [the Quran] forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it.”
Joseph Ernest Renan – 19th century French Philosopher, Historian Writer an expert of Middle East civilisations
Commented on islam as …. “the heaviest chains which have ever shackled humanity”.
Theodore Roosevelt 26th President of the United States
During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today nobody can find in them any “social values” whatever, in the sense in which we use the words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan influence. There are such “social values” today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do – that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.
Bertrand Russell – 19th century British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic
Over a billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allah supposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And the minority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they have redefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings of Islam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They therefore redefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into what is preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fits within the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backward religion.
Alexis de Tocqueville 19th century French Historian :
“I studied the Koran a great deal … I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad”.
Philip Schaff 19th century Swiss Church historian
“Mohammedanism conquered the fairest portions of the earth by the sword and cursed them by polygamy, slavery, despotism and desolation; the moving power of Islam was fanaticism and brute force
Thanks Chris! This is excellent. Looks like I’d better keep all these quotes in a special folder for easy reference.
By the way, has anyone else seen this website? http://www.ireaworld.org Looks like they’re planning to invade Australia with their ‘DAWAH Muslim evangelism tour’. Although I see no date has been set!
I personally don’t have a problem with the term ‘moderate Muslim’ which I equate to the term ‘liberal Christian’.
People can – and do – call themselves Christian when they don’t believe all the Bible (from Genesis 1:1 through to Rev 22:21). Whether such people are Christian or not is then the real issue.
The term I do believe to be problematic is ‘moderate Islam’ because – as you said – if you believe the Islamic holy texts, then there are major (insurmountable?) problems in being ‘moderate’ when so much of the teachings contain the issues you listed.
here is a link to todays ninemsn about this man wanting to have a anti-halal bbq down in Cronullla, I don’t know if if this man is decent or a ratbag, but I DO note that his ute has been vandalized and the Police have threatened HIM with court prosceution and gaol time and NOT the Islamics, free speech is certainly NOT alive and well in Australia [nowwhere in the West in free anymore] blindness, stupidity, alacrity, greed and self interest promoted by left wing elites like Keneally and others within the Academic establishments in our illustrious cities teach the impressionable young and non thinkers ” their view ” of Islam.
Anti-Islam activist posts videos online urging people to attend ‘non-halal barbecue’ at Cronulla
Here are quotes from others in history:
1. St. John Damascene A.D. 749
Christ denied saying, “I am the Son of God and God.”
“And he says this, that when the Christ had ascended into heaven God asked Him: ‘O Jesus, didst thou say: “I am the Son of God and God”?’ And Jesus, he says, answered: ‘Be merciful to me, Lord. Thou knowest that I did not say this and that I did not scorn to be thy servant. But sinful men have written that I made this statement, and they have lied about me and have fallen into error.’ And God answered and said to Him: ‘I know that thou didst not say this word.” There are many other extraordinary and quite ridiculous things in this book which he boasts was sent down to him from God.
2. Patriarch Cyrus of Alexandria on Islam
“I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world”.
3. Gregory Palamus of Thessalonica on Islam
“For these impious people, hated by God and infamous, boast of having got the better of the Romans by their love of God…they live by the bow, the sword and debauchery, finding pleasure in taking slaves, devoting themselves to murder, pillage, spoil and not only do they commit these crimes, but even – what an aberration – they believe that God approves of them. This is what I think of them, now that I know precisely about their way of life.”
4. Andre Servier on Islam
“Islam was not a torch, as has been claimed, but an extinguisher. Conceived in a barbarous brain for the use of a barbarous people, it was – and it remains – incapable of adapting itself to civilization. Wherever it has dominated, it has broken the impulse towards progress and checked the evolution of society.”
5. the “religion of peace” is getting more and more powerful because the rest of the world is becoming more and more apathetic! [ Knessest speaker for the Likud party ]
By the way slightly off topic it may seem at first …….but relevant to the morality [ or lack of it of our ruling class ] and ineptitude and low character of Australias political Sociopaths , Bill Shorten caught using his mobile while driving in Melbourne, its plainly obvious he only ” co-operated ” with the Police because he was caught. Remember this man eagerly wants to be king [ PM ] , shows why the ALP has lost all honesty, fibre and suffers gross competance . These are elites that mock and malign and smear Christian held fundamental beliefs, its ” do as I say……not as I do ” .
This man is also another Dhimmi…….happily so. Remember that next time while voting !
ooops! sorry about my error !gross INcompetance of Bill Shorten and the ALP, my own misspelling, sorry folks ….