A somewhat unhelpful article that is making the rounds and is being keenly promoted by some folks who really should know better is worth spending a bit of time on. Of course these sorts of articles appear all the time, but it is always grievous to encounter folks who claim to be Christians who seem to be biblically illiterate and morally confused.
One US Baptist pastor has written a piece in which he is trying to make one main point: “unwed pregnancy is not a sin”. Anyone who can put together a sensible argument or see the impact of fuzzy reasoning will immediately see some real mental and moral confusion here.
Let me cut to the quick: of course being pregnant is not a sin. But how you get to be pregnant may well be sinful. By unhelpfully conflating these two different issues, or trying to subsume the latter under the former, this pastor is simply engaging in mischief and recklessness.
Indeed, you know a piece is hardly worth reading when it begins by blissfully announcing that Jesus was conceived out of wedlock, as if that changes everything. But we know that the first reaction of Joseph was to put Mary away: he knew full well that sex outside of marriage was clearly wrong, as would have all good Jews back then.
It was only when he discovered that she had not been promiscuous or engaging in fornication or adultery, but had an altogether unique and one-off encounter with the Holy Spirit that he changed course. The biblical account is found in Matthew 1:18-23:
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).
That this was a never to be repeated event, and not one we can try to use to make excuses for other ways to get pregnant, should be obvious. So let’s go back to basics here. I repeat: the state of being with child is not sinful. But how a person becomes pregnant certainly can be sinful. The idea that it is so neat that someone has an unborn baby growing within that we can just forget about how that came to be is not very helpful or biblical.
In Scripture only one sort of human sexuality is ever seen to be morally acceptable: that done in a heterosexual marriage. Everything else is sinful, be it fornication, adultery, homosexuality, and so on. If a person gets pregnant outside of marriage, the sex act engaged in was sinful and needs to be confessed and repented of.
The child of course should be allowed to go to term, and the various options available need to be discussed. How all that specifically plays out may well depend on the situation in which it takes place. If it is happening to Christians in a church setting, one can discuss with the couple involved the option of marriage.
If a secular person is being counselled in a more or less secular centre, then various other options can be looked at as well: whether the woman can manage as a single mother if marriage is not possible, whether adoption might have to be considered, and so on.
But since this was a pastor talking about the church scene, let’s stick to that. The right to life of the baby is of course paramount, but so too, where and when possible, is it to be raised by his or her biological parents, preferably who are married.
I know of Christian couples where that took place. Pregnancy occurred because of sinful actions, confession and repentance took place, marriage was entered into, and the baby was born. That may not always be the way such things work out, but it is the ideal where possible.
Thankfully the Baptist pastor did discuss the confession of sin and some related issues in his article. But he may be moving in rather different church circles than I am. Far too many churches I know of today would not bat an eyelash over a member who is pregnant yet not married. That is because too many churches today hardly ever preach on sin.
But you will hear a whole lot about how loving and accepting and gracious God is. He is all that to be sure – but he is also holy, righteous and too pure to look on sin. This pastor seems to think we are being far too hard on such women who find themselves pregnant.
It seems to me that most churches are being far too soft. Are there times when some churches do not welcome a pregnant woman into their midst? Yes of course. But the way to deal with this is not to pretend that it makes no difference at all as to how she became pregnant.
Yes we celebrate the new life growing within, but we pastorally deal with how the baby was conceived, if outside of marriage. So both sides of the issue must be addressed. I have been saying for years that our churches must be better equipped to offer alternatives for abortion.
But sadly I have seen his piece promoted by others, and some of them have said some rather worrying things about it. For example, some folks seem to think that being pregnant is such a terrific thing that it really matters little how such a pregnancy came about.
A new life is always wonderful, but of course not all roads to getting there are. A rape is not wonderful. A one night stand is not wonderful. Many of the new Assisted Reproductive Technologies are morally questionable. So the fact that a new life has come about is good indeed, but not so all the ways in which he or she did come into being.
Some of these folks said that Christians need to stop being so “judgmental” and just show more grace. Well, yes and no of course. As stated, we must help the mum and the baby growing inside. But we do not help the mum by pretending any sinful actions which preceded the pregnancy are of no concern, or should just be watered down or ignored.
The truth is, sin has consequences. Sure, a baby is a gift of God, but he or she still comes about either in a right way or a wrong way. All human life is sacred, but we dare not confuse that with all means to bring about human life. Some acts are inherently sinful.
One simply has to reread the story of David and Bathsheba and see the consequences of that sin. A baby was conceived in a quite sinful fashion, was born, and we read about how things panned out afterwards, all the way through to the Divided Kingdom.
Yes each life is special and a gift, but sinful actions always have consequences. So we need to affirm and promote the whole counsel of God. We need to be biblical and affirm moral absolutes. We are not moral relativists. We don’t argue that some sins are OK and some are not.
That means we believe that abortion is morally wrong, but so too are sexual sins such as adultery or fornication. Playing one off against the other will do no good here. We must deal with all sin as sin. So yes, by all means provide a safe space for pregnant single women. But also affirm the seriousness of all sin, be it abortion or fornication or what have you.
12 Replies to “Some Sloppy Thinking On Sin and Sexuality”
Thank you Bill for the very sensitive way that you’ve covered this topic. Just because society at large has blurred almost into extinction basic concepts of sin and also gender identity, it does not mean that we as the church have to follow. God has clearly laid down His Laws and His Principles in His Word. Sin is still sin. Except for the unforgivable sin (blaspheming The Holy Spirit), all sin is forgiveable and restoration can commence when sincere repentance and confession is made. For this Pastor to monkey around with these basic principles at a time when society at large no longer respects or follows them, is creating additional problems not only for himself, but also for his congregation. Most definitely we can be sensitive and supportive in a loving manner for a mother carrying a baby outside of wedlock, however, it still has to be care and support and love based on strict Biblical principals. Good on you Bill for the way you handled this issue, Kel.
A good piece on all this by American pastor John Piper is well worth reading:
The author of the contested article has set himself up for potential criminal investigation if things go “pear-shaped” with young, nubile women in a congregation where he pastors…
I am just working through an online course in child safety training. Alfred Kinsey’s doctrines of human erotic urges have produced dangerous fruit.
Certainly, churches ought not sweep illegitimate pregnancies under the carpet by becoming complicit in terminations of inconvenient pregnancies occurring in their midst. However, the primacy, honour and legitimacy of the marriage bed must be upheld, and the reality of fornication and abortions as sins plainly taught.
I agree with Bill’s article and with the previous posters. Just the other day I was reflecting on how illegitimate pregnancies became more or less “acceptable” with the creation of church-sponsored homes for unwed mothers and adoption services within the last 50 years in the U.S. Suddenly people in supposedly Bible-believing churches were going on and on about how Christians should be “forgiving” and “understanding” of the pregnant girls. Then, when Roe v. Wade made abortion legal, the response was “Well, at least they did not have abortions!” — as if that justified everything.
In the next phase, a few Christian bachelors among my friends could not wait to marry a girl who was “damaged goods” and be a “father” to her child. As a young single woman who wanted to save her innocence for marriage, I wondered, “Now, where is the reward for the chaste young women who want to establish Christian homes?” As one can imagine, there was no reward because it suddenly was “hip and flip” to be an unwed mother, however wild, and be “rescued” and “reformed” by a Christian fellow willing to marry her and bring up another man’s child. One such young lady was a 20-year-old Caucasian student at a Christian school who wanted to “make a statement” about her own parents’ divorce. So, she CHOSE to go out drinking with an African-American man from the college town, and her pregnancy was the result. Instead of being shocked by her behavior, so many church people expressed “how sorry” they were for her. One would think she had been dragged into the bushes while walking home from prayer meeting, according to the overly sympathetic reaction of these so-called “Bible believers.” To me, it was absolutely sickening for Christians to want to excuse the natural consequences of this young woman’s choices and even more sickening when one of the most promising young Christian men came to her rescue, married her, and paraded the half-breed child around like some sort of celebrity. Again, where is the reward for the chaste girls?
A few years later, when I was a single career woman in a large city, a divorced young woman in my church telephoned me and told me how “burdened” she was for the single mothers of the city. She asked me if I thought it would be “wonderful” if some of the young men in the singles’ Sunday school class would marry these single mothers so that their children could have fathers. My blood came to an instant boil, and I told her, “These children ALREADY have fathers. Otherwise, they would not exist! And NO, I DO NOT think it would be wonderful if the single men in the class, the potential marriage prospects of the never-married girls in the class, would come to the rescue of young women (most likely unbelievers) who already had messed up their lives.
The young woman, herself divorced after a six-month marriage, was shocked that I did not want to “help the unfortunate,” especially since she had assumed all the “single” girls in the class were divorced, like herself. I told her, “The single women who are living for the Lord cannot find suitable husbands because so many Christian men are running after the immoral women you are trying to promote. Where is the reward for us?” When she tried to argue that “life had been unfair” to these women, I told her, “These women have been hit with the natural consequences of what they have done, they are being judged by God, and YOU are trying to interfere with God’s judgment and the natural consequences He wove into the universe. Furthermore, these single mothers need to get counseling and work out some sort of agreement with their children’s biological fathers.”
Upon reflecting on the doctrine of forgiveness, I believe there should be forgiveness between two people when one has wronged the other. However, in the case of a moral dilemma such as that described above, forgiveness is between the sinner and God, Whose function it is to forgive sins IF the person confesses, repents, and truly wants forgiveness. When so-called Christians talk about their wish “to forgive” immoral acts and immoral people, they really are not speaking of “forgiveness.” Instead, they are wanting to excuse or hide sin, and in doing so they are promoting sin. It is beyond sad when so-called believers do not know the basics of “right” and “wrong.”
Thanks Sheila. I quite like your point about chaste girls. Indeed, in a debate like this, one can rightly ask what about all the Christian women who do remain chaste. When we effectively turn pregnant single women into celebs, that does little good for those who for so long have stayed sexually uncompromised. Why bother staying pure if all the glory and attention is going to pregnant singles? Yes, if such women keep their babies and resist all the pressure to abort, they are champs in that regard. But they sure are not champs in falling into fornication or other sexual sin.
Sheila, it’s the children I feel sorry for. They didn’t ask to be conceived. Many of them will have to grow up without a father or with a father who resents them or at best takes little interest in them. As for the clueless men who rush to marry women who have become pregnant for whatever reason outside of marriage, I wonder how much trust there will be in the marriage and how long it will last.
To chaste young women who miss out on marriage , I can only say “Better the single life than marriage to the sort of man discussed above.”
Meanwhile the Church of Scotland wants to call both the Father and Jesus liars by blessing homosexual “marriage.”
You make some valid points. However, I was emphasizing the scriptural principle that sin has a ripple effect that causes bad outcomes for other people. It is NOT just the children and the single mothers, whether they are divorced or never married. The messed-up idea so many professing Christians have about forgiveness toward immorality has had a very bad effect on society and especially on sincere, obedient Christians who SHOULD be rewarded.
Sheila, read Matthew 16:24 – 27. God knows hearts, minds and motivations. He will do the rewarding in His own way and time.
To Naomi: Yes, it is true that God gives rewards. However, people are responsible for the choices they make and for the way they treat others. As the scripture says, “No man liveth or dieth unto himself.” It is not right for anyone to promote sin and to mistreat or ignore the innocent.
Gday Bill,
Here is a link to an article I posted to my Fb page Speak freely. Thought you might like to file it and use the info if you do a further post on the debauched pop music scene ….. this one is about Ariana Grande. [Krystin Rios & I often re-post your articles to Speak freely]. http://parzivalshorse.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/public-child-abuse-paid-for-by-parents.html
As I read this article, Hebrews 4:12 comes to mind.
Thank you Bill for the very sensitive way that you’ve covered this topic. Just because society at large has blurred almost into extinction basic concepts of sin and also gender identity, it does not mean that we as the church have to follow. God has clearly laid down His Laws and His Principles in His Word. Sin is still sin. Except for the unforgivable sin (blaspheming The Holy Spirit), all sin is forgiveable and restoration can commence when sincere repentance and confession is made. For this Pastor to monkey around with these basic principles at a time when society at large no longer respects or follows them, is creating additional problems not only for himself, but also for his congregation. Most definitely we can be sensitive and supportive in a loving manner for a mother carrying a baby outside of wedlock, however, it still has to be care and support and love based on strict Biblical principals. Good on you Bill for the way you handled this issue, Kel.
A good piece on all this by American pastor John Piper is well worth reading:
http://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/is-it-sinful-to-be-pregnant-before-marriage
The author of the contested article has set himself up for potential criminal investigation if things go “pear-shaped” with young, nubile women in a congregation where he pastors…
I am just working through an online course in child safety training. Alfred Kinsey’s doctrines of human erotic urges have produced dangerous fruit.
Certainly, churches ought not sweep illegitimate pregnancies under the carpet by becoming complicit in terminations of inconvenient pregnancies occurring in their midst. However, the primacy, honour and legitimacy of the marriage bed must be upheld, and the reality of fornication and abortions as sins plainly taught.
I agree with Bill’s article and with the previous posters. Just the other day I was reflecting on how illegitimate pregnancies became more or less “acceptable” with the creation of church-sponsored homes for unwed mothers and adoption services within the last 50 years in the U.S. Suddenly people in supposedly Bible-believing churches were going on and on about how Christians should be “forgiving” and “understanding” of the pregnant girls. Then, when Roe v. Wade made abortion legal, the response was “Well, at least they did not have abortions!” — as if that justified everything.
In the next phase, a few Christian bachelors among my friends could not wait to marry a girl who was “damaged goods” and be a “father” to her child. As a young single woman who wanted to save her innocence for marriage, I wondered, “Now, where is the reward for the chaste young women who want to establish Christian homes?” As one can imagine, there was no reward because it suddenly was “hip and flip” to be an unwed mother, however wild, and be “rescued” and “reformed” by a Christian fellow willing to marry her and bring up another man’s child. One such young lady was a 20-year-old Caucasian student at a Christian school who wanted to “make a statement” about her own parents’ divorce. So, she CHOSE to go out drinking with an African-American man from the college town, and her pregnancy was the result. Instead of being shocked by her behavior, so many church people expressed “how sorry” they were for her. One would think she had been dragged into the bushes while walking home from prayer meeting, according to the overly sympathetic reaction of these so-called “Bible believers.” To me, it was absolutely sickening for Christians to want to excuse the natural consequences of this young woman’s choices and even more sickening when one of the most promising young Christian men came to her rescue, married her, and paraded the half-breed child around like some sort of celebrity. Again, where is the reward for the chaste girls?
A few years later, when I was a single career woman in a large city, a divorced young woman in my church telephoned me and told me how “burdened” she was for the single mothers of the city. She asked me if I thought it would be “wonderful” if some of the young men in the singles’ Sunday school class would marry these single mothers so that their children could have fathers. My blood came to an instant boil, and I told her, “These children ALREADY have fathers. Otherwise, they would not exist! And NO, I DO NOT think it would be wonderful if the single men in the class, the potential marriage prospects of the never-married girls in the class, would come to the rescue of young women (most likely unbelievers) who already had messed up their lives.
The young woman, herself divorced after a six-month marriage, was shocked that I did not want to “help the unfortunate,” especially since she had assumed all the “single” girls in the class were divorced, like herself. I told her, “The single women who are living for the Lord cannot find suitable husbands because so many Christian men are running after the immoral women you are trying to promote. Where is the reward for us?” When she tried to argue that “life had been unfair” to these women, I told her, “These women have been hit with the natural consequences of what they have done, they are being judged by God, and YOU are trying to interfere with God’s judgment and the natural consequences He wove into the universe. Furthermore, these single mothers need to get counseling and work out some sort of agreement with their children’s biological fathers.”
Upon reflecting on the doctrine of forgiveness, I believe there should be forgiveness between two people when one has wronged the other. However, in the case of a moral dilemma such as that described above, forgiveness is between the sinner and God, Whose function it is to forgive sins IF the person confesses, repents, and truly wants forgiveness. When so-called Christians talk about their wish “to forgive” immoral acts and immoral people, they really are not speaking of “forgiveness.” Instead, they are wanting to excuse or hide sin, and in doing so they are promoting sin. It is beyond sad when so-called believers do not know the basics of “right” and “wrong.”
Thanks Sheila. I quite like your point about chaste girls. Indeed, in a debate like this, one can rightly ask what about all the Christian women who do remain chaste. When we effectively turn pregnant single women into celebs, that does little good for those who for so long have stayed sexually uncompromised. Why bother staying pure if all the glory and attention is going to pregnant singles? Yes, if such women keep their babies and resist all the pressure to abort, they are champs in that regard. But they sure are not champs in falling into fornication or other sexual sin.
Sheila, it’s the children I feel sorry for. They didn’t ask to be conceived. Many of them will have to grow up without a father or with a father who resents them or at best takes little interest in them. As for the clueless men who rush to marry women who have become pregnant for whatever reason outside of marriage, I wonder how much trust there will be in the marriage and how long it will last.
To chaste young women who miss out on marriage , I can only say “Better the single life than marriage to the sort of man discussed above.”
Meanwhile the Church of Scotland wants to call both the Father and Jesus liars by blessing homosexual “marriage.”
http://www.christian.org.uk/news/church-scotland-backs-homosexual-unions/?e260517
It doesn’t get any more “sloppy” than that.
You make some valid points. However, I was emphasizing the scriptural principle that sin has a ripple effect that causes bad outcomes for other people. It is NOT just the children and the single mothers, whether they are divorced or never married. The messed-up idea so many professing Christians have about forgiveness toward immorality has had a very bad effect on society and especially on sincere, obedient Christians who SHOULD be rewarded.
Sheila, read Matthew 16:24 – 27. God knows hearts, minds and motivations. He will do the rewarding in His own way and time.
To Naomi: Yes, it is true that God gives rewards. However, people are responsible for the choices they make and for the way they treat others. As the scripture says, “No man liveth or dieth unto himself.” It is not right for anyone to promote sin and to mistreat or ignore the innocent.
Gday Bill,
Here is a link to an article I posted to my Fb page Speak freely. Thought you might like to file it and use the info if you do a further post on the debauched pop music scene ….. this one is about Ariana Grande. [Krystin Rios & I often re-post your articles to Speak freely].
http://parzivalshorse.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/public-child-abuse-paid-for-by-parents.html
As I read this article, Hebrews 4:12 comes to mind.