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Will There Be Blues in Heaven?

Sep 9, 2018

OK, another title that may perplex some, and perhaps intrigue a few others. The blues in heaven? Really? Well, it may be a bit misleading anyway. We know that in the next life all sorrows will vanish, death and darkness will be no more, and every tear will be wiped away.

But I need to take this a bit further nonetheless. The blues is a musical genre originating in America’s south with Black Americans, many of them coming through the slave days. The old spirituals, work songs and gospel tunes were among the forerunners to the blues, and they generally depict hardship, suffering, rejection, injustice and the like.

Sure, often a good blues song will be all about a loved one walking out on you and taking up with another guy, and so on, but the blues were basically about sorrow, sadness, despair and depression, and they offered a way of expressing all this. So why am I writing about the blues?

Well, for several reasons. I have long enjoyed the blues, beginning when I was a teen and a non-Christian, and still even today while a believer. Also, I have wrestled with bouts of the blues over the years – that is, I have experienced occasional periods of depression and the like, as have so many other believers.

So at least two questions arise here. One, are the blues as a type of music something Christians can and should enjoy? Two, can a Christian have the blues? The latter is the more important matter of the two. But as to the first question – well, I like them, as mentioned. One can argue that they are too negative and too despairing, and that believers should only think happy thoughts or only listen to upbeat and cheerful stuff, including music.

I have dealt with these matters more broadly before. But briefly, the Bible itself is full of laments, especially in the psalter. These entail complaints and ask hard questions in the face of hard situations – they were an early form of the blues in many ways.

And the lament psalms were sung as part of Israel’s corporate worship. They made it clear that lousy things happen, that God’s people can cry out to God about this, and they are permitted – indeed encouraged – to share their emotions and ask God why this is happening. See more on this here: billmuehlenberg.com/2012/02/02/the-lament-psalms/

And here: billmuehlenberg.com/2018/01/28/three-cheers-lament/

Moreover, themes of suffering, hardship, trials and tribulations are part and parcel of the biblical material. Indeed, we have a Lord who is well known as the Suffering Servant (Isaiah 53). We worship a God who “was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief” (v. 3).

And our God is a God who is concerned about our suffering and sorrows. He is concerned about injustice. He is concerned about oppression – all familiar themes in the blues. Concerning such things, I recall many years ago when my wife and I lived in Amsterdam as missionaries.

The Australian Christian leader John Smith – well-known for his Christian motorcycle group God’s Squad – was in town so we invited him and another couple over to our apartment for dinner. I put on some blues, asking him if he did not mind having some secular music on.

He made it clear that he loved the blues, and he felt that they were very much in the spirit and heart of the Christian gospel. We agreed on that issue at least, although he was a bit too much to the left politically speaking back then! (He may have moved a bit more to the centre over the years.)

So Smithy loved the blues and thought they fully fit in with the Christian message. As to whether there will be blues in heaven, well I don’t know for sure. Christians who have had the blues will be in heaven. Sure, they will be singing new songs of praise to God. But perhaps with these important themes of suffering and perseverance through trials, etc, maybe aspects of them will carry over as well. We shall see.

Concerning my second question – whether Christians can have the blues – well, I have had them, as have so many others. I believe we are just kidding ourselves if we think believers will never get discouraged, downhearted, overwhelmed or depressed.

Many of God’s great saints have been through such dark clouds. Just last night I revisited a terrific little book by Zack Eswine, Spurgeon’s Sorrows: Realistic Hope For Those Who Suffer From Depression (Christian Focus, 2015). The great Charles Spurgeon not only had so many physical troubles and ailments, but he also had plenty of inner troubles and turmoil, depression and despair.

Yet as we all know he was so very powerfully used of God. This was a wonderful, powerful man of God who was so greatly influential for the Kingdom, yet most of his life he struggled with physical, emotional, mental and psychological suffering and hardship.

Let me offer just one quote from the book:

Depression is not unique to us. After citing historical examples such as Martin Luther, Isaac Newton, and William Cowper, then Biblical examples such as Job, King David, Elijah or our Lord Jesus, Charles will inevitably say: “You are not the first child of God who has been depressed or troubled.” Even “among the noblest of men and women who ever lived, there has been much of this kind of thing … Do not, therefore, think that you are quite alone in your sorrow.” Even though you may “go to bed in the dark,” you will “wake up in the eternal daylight.”

Last month I penned an article on Spurgeon and his suffering. For those who want to look at this in more detail, see here: billmuehlenberg.com/2018/08/03/spurgeon-and-suffering/

So the two answers to the two questions are as follows: yes Christians can enjoy listening to the blues, and yes Christians can get the blues. Sure, we do not seek to remain there, and we appropriate the usual graces to seek help, comfort and if possible, deliverance.

But having battles with things like doubt, despair and depression seems to be part and parcel of the Christian life. As Spurgeon put it: “The road to sorrow has been well trodden – it is the regular sheeptrack to heaven, and all the flock of God have had to pass along it.”

About the blues

OK, at this point my theological and devotional reflections are mainly over. Now, only for those who might be interested, a few more words about the blues. A few other folks may enjoy taking the discussion a bit further, so let me make a few closing thoughts on this type of music.

In the early part of last century some key blues singers and players included Robert Johnson, Bessie Smith, Lead Belly, Mississippi Fred McDowell, Ma Rainey, Big Bill Broonzy, Sonny Boy Williamson, Mississippi John Hurt, to name just a few.

Somewhat more recent figures would include greats such as John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, B. B. King, Buddy Guy, Little Walter, Howlin’ Wolf, T-Bone Walker, Albert King, Junior Wells, Willie Dixon, Albert Collins, Elmore James, James Cotton and Pinetop Perkins.

Back in my youth I saw a number of these folks, such as both Kings, Waters, Hooker and Dixon. And of course plenty of White groups have sought to do the blues as well, including Rod Piazza and the Mighty Flyers, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, etc. I have seen a few of these groups over the years as well.

If you want but one example of a classic blues song performed by one of the great bluesmen, consider this one by B. B. King, supported by another legend, Eric Clapton: www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7-MOZ9-yuE

Whether King was an actual Christian or not may be a moot point, but this article which appeared just after his death sought to offer a few clues on this: www.christiantoday.com/article/bb-king-ten-things-the-king-of-blues-said-about-faith/54009.htm

Here is one noted gospel singer who has known all about the blues – and glorious redemption – and still sings the blues – Ashley Cleveland: www1.cbn.com/700club/god-delivers-singer-ashley-cleveland-addiction

And one of her bluesy gospel songs: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYY0z7hEh0Y

Or a toe-tapper of hers: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx1R5N4TRec

Finally, one other Christian blues artist, Glenn Kaiser, formerly of the Resurrection band: www.godtube.com/watch/?v=PYDKWNNX

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15 Responses to Will There Be Blues in Heaven?

  • Thank you for another great article, Bill, and your insight about a form of popular music. It is refreshing to hear that another Christian enjoys this art form and that you do not consider it something “worldly” which believers should avoid.

  • I will follow these helpful links after posting this. I did not know that Spurgeon has suffered from depression and despondency from time to time. This was of great encouragement to me, Bill. I appreciate so much that you wrote of this and gave references for further study on this. It is such a frightening thing when you think that, as a believer, you are the lone oddball out there who are feeling extremely blue. There are many who wish to convince you that you lack faith or else you wouldn’t be feeling depressed and sometimes in doubt. Thank you so much for this and the other articles you have posted on this topic. God bless!

  • Thanks Sheila and Vicki. And on a lighter note, I recall Barry McGuire (along with the Second Chapter of Acts) poking a bit of fun at the blues way back in 1975:

  • A lover of blues? I will have to pray for you bill. Seriously I too have a reasonable collection of old blues albums but they really are not particularly edifying. Out of your list of blues performers, if I recall correctly, I think Mississippi John Hurt came to the Lord but I am not aware of any of the others.

    Your video link did not work for me but I recall Barry McGuire saying something about being “in the basement digging holes.”

    Php_4:4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I say, Rejoice!

    God bless!

  • Thanks guys. While my title was only half serious, the points I tried to raise in the piece were serious. And I knew some folks would like the piece, some would dislike it, and some would misunderstand it. Just a few follow-up questions if I may:

    -When we enjoy the new heaven and new earth, will Jesus no longer be known as the suffering servant?
    -In heaven, when we see Jesus will he be minus his scars which speak to his tremendous suffering while on the cross?
    -In the next life will portions of Scripture such as the many laments disappear or be deleted since they may not seem to align with the joys of heaven
    -Will heaven just be a happy clappy kind of place?
    -Will every memory of sad and gloomy matters be expunged there?
    -Will there still be a sense of loss – eg., of loved ones who did not make it there, etc? (On this last question I think we will have the mind of Christ on this, and we will rejoice that some have found mercy but also rejoice that some have received their just deserts. But that is the stuff of another article!)

    These are the serious sorts of musings I had in mind when I wrote my article. I already said in my piece that all tears will be wiped away, etc. So we know that some things will be no more. But what about other things? I am just thinking out loud here! And of course I have in mind things like the Positive Confession movement here which I find to be so unhelpful and unbiblical. But I may have to write another article on all this!

  • It’s a fascinating question. I’ve always been much more into classical music than what you’d technically call ‘Blues”, but the same applies there. If you expunged from the repertoire every piece that taps into human sadness for its power, then a lot of the very best would be gone, from Purcell’s “When I am laid in Earth” to Bach’s St Matthew Passion.
    Even Handel’s beloved “Messiah” would have huge gaps in it!

    I’ve often wondered if that’s what the joy of Heaven has to mean, in which case it’s hard not to feel as if Heaven will be the poorer; or if not, how such music is to be reconciled with it.

  • Thanks Jennifer. Yes I am with you. But I am sure that any art, music, poetry or anything will be so much greater in heaven that we will miss nothing from our former life.

  • Thanks, Bill, that’s the only possible answer, and nothing but the drag of the earthbound imagination could make it seem unsatisfying.
    See you there 🙂

  • Nice post Bill. I really enjoy blues music. And completely compatible with Christian faith – with a significant number of Psalms being songs of lament. We lament the broken messed up world we live in and look forward with the hope of Christ to the world of Revelation 21:1-5!

    They may be hard to get these days (although perhaps you can get them online / youtube etc), but the following albums are crackers. Glenn Kaiser: Spontaneous Combustion – absolutely the best – favourite songs: Ain’t Much Difference, Everybody Understands the Blues, If I Leave This World Tomorrow and Through the Night. Also Glenn Kaiser & Darrell Mansfield: Trimmed & Burning – check out the song “Celestial Shore” – brilliant!

  • Loved the Glenn Kaiser stuff! There’s a raw, stripped-back power about fair-dinkum blues music with a Christian edge added to its sonic swords and battle-axes.

  • It ain’t no sin, Bill:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iawMxX2tvUI

    He knows:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFCaWU8717A

    I give ’em to Jesus:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui1Ob3QB3Jg We must have further discussion about ‘the devil’s music’, Bill. Meanwhile, enjoy these.

  • A bit of blues history, Bill. Did you know that some of Muddy Waters first recordings were gospel songs?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meHpVEbj4Hs
    I could listen to Little Walter and Charlie Musselwhite playing every day but what thrills me most is blues singers who sang about Jesus, and only Jesus, like Washington Phillips and Rev. Dan Smith:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOX9-kcv7g
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rM4DUTvzI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epM_PTkXoLM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXcQxHcAwq4 ….dig it, man..

  • I hope so. I love the 12 4/4 structure with 5 tone minors. But, Bill, tell me, will there be swing? After all, as the song says: ‘it don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got that swing’.
    Maybe our perceptions will be a little higher.

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