Away With You Spineless Christian Men
I have said this before, and I will keep saying it until I see some real changes taking place around here: Where are all the godly, courageous men of faith? Why do they seem to be an endangered species? Why is it that whenever some crisis comes up that demands Christian action and bravery, it is Christian women who lead the charge?
Praise God for these fearless and totally committed Christian women. But I sure wish we had some Christian men to join their ranks. I am ashamed to be a Christian male to be honest, when so often I see courageous women standing up and being counted, while all the pansy girly-men cower behind their skirts.
Enough already! We need some men with backbone – men with some Holy Ghost boldness to take back what the devil has stolen. Enough of all these wimps for Jesus and spineless wonders. Now more than ever we need real men – real Christian men – to stand, to fight, and to do valiantly for our God.
My reason for writing this is because once again, the church of Jesus Christ is under direct Satanic attack, and it takes a brave Christian woman to make a godly stance. Where are all the Christian men? I speak to your shame! Stop all this cowardliness and start acting like soldiers of Jesus Christ.
This episode has to do with the National Cathedral in Washington DC which lost its marbles, and thought it would be a neat idea to have Muslims come in and hold an Islamic prayer service there. The folks in charge there are simply duped dhimmis, and haven’t a clue what this signifies.
The prayers of course take place in Arabic, so these brainless Christians would not know what was being prayed. These interfaith fools do not have a clue as to what they are allowing to happen in their own Christian houses of worship.
Do they not know anything about Islam? Do they know nothing about the Shahada, one of the pillars of Islam? It is a prayer that professes there is only one God (Allah) and that Muhammad is his messenger. This is a direct, unilateral assault on the very heart and soul of the Christian faith: that Jesus Christ is God’s son, and the only way to the Father.
So these blind dhimmis are going to allow pagan gods into God’s sanctuary. The word of God is clear on this. As Yahweh clearly proclaims: “I will not share my glory with another” (Isaiah 42:8; 48:11). How can these people even claim to be followers of Jesus Christ and allow this desecration of God’s house?
Well one brave Christian woman refused to just sit by and do nothing. She went in there and fearlessly proclaimed Christian truth. “Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour” she boldly proclaimed. And she was thrown out of this Christian church for daring to say this! Go Figure.
A five minute video clip discussing her informs us that her name is Christine. That is all I know about her so far, but I certainly want to know more. What a champion. What a hero. So where are all the men? Why does it always take a wonderful Christian woman to speak the truth of Jesus Christ so courageously?
Remember earlier this year the same thing happened in a church in Germany. Muslims were leading their demonic religious worship there, when a brave Christian woman, Heidi Mund stood up to proclaim Jesus Christ and his Lordship. She too was chucked out of the church! I discuss this here: https://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/02/08/one-brave-christian-woman-contra-mundum/
And this Washington church has allowed Muslim extremists to sponsor this whole sordid affair, including Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. As Robert Spencer explains, the Koran makes it clear what it thinks about Christians. He offers a number of suras about this, then says:
In light of all that, and the ongoing and escalating Muslim persecution of Christians worldwide, wouldn’t it have been more appropriate, so as to promote love, respect and understanding and all that, to have Christian prayers in a mosque? After all, it is Muslims who are persecuting Christians worldwide, and the National Cathedral decides to show its good will and love for Muslims by inviting Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front groups to pray there. Why doesn’t the ADAMS Center [a leading Islamic mosque in Washington] show its good will and love for Christians by inviting Christians to pray in the mosque there?
Yes exactly right. Why is it always just one way traffic here? Duped Christians invite Muslims in to their churches all the time based on some foolish ideas of interfaith harmony. But when was the last time a Christian was allowed to pray and lead a Christian worship service in a mosque?
But what upsets me even more than this rank apostasy by so many deceived Christian leaders, is the absence of godly men who will fearlessly stand up for Jesus in crunch times. Why do we always seem to get Holy Ghost-empowered women fighting the good fight, while all these craven weenies just sit at home and watch Top Gear?
I for one have had a gutful of these cowardly, spineless wonders who profess to be Christians but do nothing for Jesus, say nothing for Jesus, and risk nothing for Jesus. They are cowards and fakes, and I want nothing to do with them. It is time for all true soldiers of Jesus Christ to arise and go to battle.
And by the look of it, that means Christian males will have a lot of work to do to catch up to all those godly women warriors who are so far ahead of them.
Go Christine. Go Heidi. I salute you, and I apologise that there are so few righteous men who will stand with you in this hour of need.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/national-cathedral-to-host-muslim-prayer-co-sponsored-by-hamas-linked-cair-and-isna
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/woman-proclaiming-christ-ejected-from-muslim-prayers-at-national-cathedral
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Preach it Bill! Good article, needed to be said!
Most of the time “real Christian men” are busy working 1, 2, 3 jobs to try to keep their family together. Most of the so called “men” who do have time to wonder around holding placards are usually benefits and talking on their obummer fone (misspell purposely).
And most of the so called clergy are in fact ba’al worshipers in disguise, and not followers of our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ. If they were, there would not be homomarriages, homosexual priests, child rapists given a free pass and put into different parishes to hide what they have done, would teach from the scriptures, not the latest issue of oprah’s world view, and they definitely would be throwing out the school of frankfurt and alanski’s rules for radicals books.
I really like what you had to say here. This is a real call to war and it needs a war cry just like this.
Yes Audrey, I just wish more Christians – especially Christian men – would wake up to the very real war we are in. Too many girlie men in the pews sadly.
Great article, Bill. The problem is, in my view, that this society has hammered men down so much that they’re indoctrinated and brainwashed that it’s not cool for males to be heroes. Just look at a lot of our movies and animations…so many of the males are either weak, timid or sexually immoral and the women are the strong and noble characters (though they are also immoral). We need to promote the opposite spirit in our churches. Rise up Christian men. We need you and you have a call and a destiny to fulfill!
Yes quite so Dee.
Dee, it’s all part of the feminization of society, and the radical feminist agenda to reduce men to second-class citizenry or, to use a George Orwell term, “proles” ie non-citizens.
Bill,
Thank you for drawing this critical issue to our attention. We do have Aussie men who stand for Christ and against unjust causes. Who could be more of a hero than Graham Preston who has gone to jail for protesting outside abortion clinics in his endeavour to try to save the lives of unborn children? Here’s an interview with him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siot-HkRolk
Fred Nile has taken more than his share of antagonism from the media and people in our society. His onslaught on Q&A from 4 antagonists in a mass media forum was a horrible event to behold. He’s a brave, gutsy man who has stood up for the cause of Christ over many years.
I do not find it helpful that you have damned men with this kind of language: ‘I for one have had a gutful of these cowardly, spineless wonders who profess to be Christians but do nothing for Jesus, say nothing for Jesus, and risk nothing for Jesus. They are cowards and fakes, and I want nothing to do with them. It is time for all true soldiers of Jesus Christ to arise and go to battle’. That kind of hyperbolic put down could contain many errors. Why are you to say that men who don’t speak up are ‘cowardly, spineless wonders’ who are ‘cowards and fakes’. That is engaging in the use of an ad hominem logical fallacy. Your pejorative term, ‘dhimmis’, is not a good one to call men to active involvement.
I, for one, have engaged in many Christian activist causes over man years. I can no longer do it because of major health issues. You don’t know this kind of information.
There are a couple other factors: (1) Not all people have your, Christine’s or Heidi’s gifts to be able to make coherent, public stands for Christian causes. (2) What is the church of Jesus Christ here in Australia doing to equip its people in the apologetic tasks of dealing with the enemies we face in the media, high schools, universities, work places, and on the streets? ‘To equip the saints for the work of ministry’ (Eph 4:12) should get a lot more emphasis in our Aussie churches.
Sorry Spencer, but not buying your complaint. I am in good company with those who spoke truth boldly and strongly and without apology. As I just read today in Acts 13:9-11:
“Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, “You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind for a time, not even able to see the light of the sun.”
Very strong words there. The prophets, Jesus, and the disciples were all unafraid to use the strongest of language as they rebuked error, cowardice and falsehood. As I keep telling my critics, if you don’t like what I write here, no one is forcing you to come here. And given that I have had plenty of other Christians give me a hearty amen on all this, I will keep doing what I am doing, and I will keep calling out the girlie men, whether some like it or not.
And of course dhimmi is a 100% accurate and proper term for those who allow themselves to be intimidated and cowed by Islam. I will never stop using this most helpful term.
You are right on the need of more apologetics.
Spencer is right.
There is a crying need to educate Christians about how to respond to the rise of Islam (in Australia), the homosexual juggernaut, and the outright vindictiveness and hatred for the Christian gospel, as evidenced by many correspondents on chat sites.
i remember this event, thank you for reminding me of this Saint who is not afraid to stand and speak the truth. I would like to know her also, and encourage her.
Shame on that “church”, it has become a house of Devils.
I think a lot of men have lost heart due to the feminazis and are no longer brave. Non-feminine women have trumped all over them.
Men, get your hearts back. Really encourage you to read a book by a man for men, “Wild at Heart” by John Eldredge.
Hello Bill,
Thank you for your articles. Michael Voris of ChurchMilitant.tv has been making the same points, as you, but specifically the feminisation of the Catholic Church.
I was upset to-day to find the following answer to someone who brought up the topic of the recent burning of a Christian couple in Pakistan:
St Columbans Mission Society: Dear Amer. This is a terrible event. This is but one instance of religion being used for ulterior motives, stemming from ignorance and mis-use of religions and their sacred texts. Other instances include verbal abuse, intimidation, harassment, persecution, forced conversions and massacres. We deplore all such actions. They are contrary to the teachings of all religions, including Islam, an affront to human dignity and an offence to God. All religions promote the Golden Rule, “Treat others as you want to be treated”. Dialogue with believers of other religions enables us to get to know that no religion condones such acts of evil, but all promote justice, truth and service of the common good.
Immediately below this there was a notice for an upcoming course on Islam to be run by the Catholic Institute of Sydney.
It makes me feel ill to know that well educated people can be so naive, especially when I know that some of them have actually spent many years in Pakistan and other places with large Muslim populations.
Yes we do need more brave men to stand up for the cause.
That said, anyone who do stand up should really be consistent in their character. After all, we do have embarassing instances of leaders being caught up in some scandal or other.
Back in the 19th century preacher Henry Ward Beecher took on early feminist Victoria Woodhull for supporting ‘free love’, (sexual immorality in other words). Then Beecher torpedoed his own stance by having an adulterous affair with a friend’s wife. And Woodhull reportedly had a field day, saying the preacher was really a practitioner of the ‘free love’ he denounced.
More recently, we have the Ted Haggard affair, which may well have undermined the fight against the homofascists.
It’s not an easy world nowadays is it.
2 Kings 21:1-10
Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-five years. His mother was Hephzibah. He did what was evil in the LORD’s sight, following the detestable practices of the pagan nations that the LORD had driven from the land ahead of the Israelites. He rebuilt the pagan shrines his father, Hezekiah, had destroyed. He constructed altars for Baal and set up an Asherah pole, just as King Ahab of Israel had done. He also bowed before all the powers of the heavens and worshiped them. He built pagan altars in the Temple of the LORD, the place where the LORD had said, “My name will remain in Jerusalem forever.” He built these altars for all the powers of the heavens in both courtyards of the LORD’s Temple. Manasseh also sacrificed his own son in the fire.[a] He practiced sorcery and divination, and he consulted with mediums and psychics. He did much that was evil in the LORD’s sight, arousing his anger.
Reading the story above, I felt that the dhimmis are irresponsible allowing people who serve other gods praying to their foreign god in God’s temple like allowing them to build a pagan altar in the temple of the Lord. To me it is an abomination. I don’t think my pastor would allow a Buddhist monk going into the church praying to his god. It is an abomination. Where are the God-fearing men who worship the Lord at the National Cathedral in Washington? They are truly spiritually blind. Wake up men of God! This is the House of the Lord where the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is exalted. Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord Yahweh -Yeshua will be saved! Not a pagan god!
I have been saying this for quite some time. So many Christian men get all Giddy and jump on the feminist bandwagon when they see churches being led by women, counties and states being led by women, our military being led by women, and seem excited at the prospect of our nation being led by women. Recently an 18 year old girl (a conservative) won a state office and this has been widely celebrated by conservative men.
My position on this is apparently too nuanced for many to understand. Like you, I applaud these Christian women, but I do not celebrate the fact that men are absent. We are not meant to be led by women. It is a rebuke to a nation when men do not take their role seriously. It is not a rebuke to the women who stand as Deborah did, but it is not something we as men should be happy about at all!
Isaiah Chapter 3
Isa 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
Spencer, you’re right that we do have good men willing to stand up. But Bill’s point is still valid that it seems in some cases that it’s more likely the women. And yes, some men certainly have good reasons why they are unable to. But that doesn’t explain the rest.
When he says that “I for one have had a gutful of these cowardly, spineless wonders who profess to be Christians but do nothing for Jesus, say nothing for Jesus, and risk nothing for Jesus.”, he doesn’t mean that every single Christian bloke is like that; he’s had a gutful of the proportion who are like that, and is implicitly saying that there’s too many like that. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t exceptions, like Graham Preston and Fred Nile that you mention.
As for your point that “Not all people have your, Christine’s or Heidi’s gifts to be able to make coherent, public stands for Christian causes.”, I’m reminded of Moses, who basically told God the same thing. But God used him anyway. I think Mark Wong has made a good point about actually being consistent with what we believe, but to a fair extent, what we need most is people who speak up, more than people who speak well. I thought many times before that a well-written, well-argued, letter to the editor of a newspaper will probably fail to impress anybody who is not already on side. But 100 mediocre letters will have a much bigger impression, simply because too many people these days go along with public opinion over rational argument.
Sure, in a blog like this or a newspaper column, a well-written article is important. But in some other contexts, people simply speaking up is what’s needed. When you are taking a stand in a church like the ladies that Bill wrote about did, you don’t have the opportunity to mount a well-reasoned argument before you get kicked out, so that’s not so important there.
And by the way, like Bill, I completely agree with your final point.
Same problem here in Spain, a severe lack of mature and bold and true Christian men. One Sunday (the senior pastor was away) our service was conducted by 3 females, including me preaching! Yes I have repented and changed my ways and beliefs but it sadly shows how reticent men are at standing up and being counted. They prefer to be invisible and as for correcting any error, forget that also, everyone has his/her truth within the false teaching and who are we to judge anyway,oh and no church is perfect, no wonder there are so many weak and sick amongst us.
Oh for men like Paul these days.
While I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments in this article and share the outrage at the behaviour of the simpletons in Washington, I would like to point out that at leasdt one Christian congregation in Turkey worships in the social centre of a mosque. All credit must go to the Alevi Muslims (no strangers to persecution) who have offered sanctuary to a little community of Anglicans who have no building in which to worship despite the large numbers of abandoned Greek Churches which could be made available to them.
God Bless this brave Christian woman! We need more Christines and Heidis (Kevins and Harrys, too.)
I don’t think we can call spineless Christian men “girly”, anymore. Christine and Heidi are “girlys” with guts! So we can’t use the term “girly men” for these gutless men. It is insulting to real Christian “girlys”, like Christine and Heidi. 😉
Philip, how do we know the number of women vs men who stand up for Christian causes? Where is the evidence that more women do this than men? When we see valid research on this, then we will be able to make more objective assessments. To this point, I have not seen such research. Do you know where I can locate such?
You want to compare the ‘cowardly, spineless wonders’ of men with Moses and his inability to speak. I don’t find that to be an equal comparison. You say, ‘What we need most is people who speak up, more than people who speak well’. That’s nice in theory, but if we want to gain and hold people’s attention, some competence and connection are needed.
You talk about ‘a well-written, well-argued, letter to the editor of a newspaper will probably fail to impress anybody who is not already on side. But 100 mediocre letters will have a much bigger impression’. I don’t have evidence to support that statement. But this I do know: The chances of getting mediocre letters published is very low. If you don’t believe me, try sending a mediocre letter to The Age, Sydney Morning Herald, or even your local freebie. I know people have done that over and over and are still waiting for the letter to be published. I’m not of the view that we should accept mediocre standards.
Hallelujah for women of Christ! It’s about time we stop hiding behind men and step up to use out gifts for the Kingdom. Quite frankly, I don’t care who does it, just so it gets done! I resent such things as calling the church “feminized.” After all, it is the BRIDE of Christ. It seems it is only the sinful, prideful, male ago that whines over women doing the jobs that Christ called them to do. So please, guys, grow up and join your sisters who will no longer sit around and wait. You are our brothers in Christ, our equals in Him, and yes, we need you. But we will work without you if need be.
Hi Bill,
I am a regular reader of your website, which I find encouraging and an important reminder to living the Christian life, including the topic at hand. However I would caution your use of how you describe men, while keeping in mind the passage in Acts you quoted….
Thanks Matthew, but sorry, I have edited your very long comment. Please allow me to explain. With all due respect, your remarks were in fact a pretty good illustration of the very thing I wrote about in this article. When I never hear from people, whether I am writing about the fate of the lost, Christians being massacred, babies being slaughtered, except when they come to complain about a few words (pansy, girly man) – well guess what? They might be just what I am talking about: men who seem to be without backbone who take offence far too easily at all the wrong stuff. (And if I am not mistaken, this may be your very first comment here – further proving my point!)
If and when I see such people carrying on with equal passion and lengthy comments about things that really matter, then I might be more inclined to listen. But when people get all bent out of shape about a few forceful words, then to be honest I think we are not at all on the same page, and there are some unfortunate priorities (or lack thereof) going on here. It is a case of majoring in minors, and forgetting about what really matters.
And for what it is worth, I have often written about the biblical case for strong language. Have a read here if you are interested in why I do what I do:
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2007/04/18/rhetoric-the-bible-and-the-believer/
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2007/06/16/righteous-indignation/
https://billmuehlenberg.com/2011/05/11/4389/
So while I hope you remain a regular reader here, it really is up to you. Again, respectfully, I just wish you would get as passionate about the things that are so very pressing today and that really do so vitally matter (as in this case, the Islamic takeover of the churches), as you do about a few words not to your liking!
Thanks for writing in (finally!).
Spencer, I will grant you that Bill made an argument on the basis of a very small sample, and you could criticise his argument on those grounds, although prima facie, he does seem to have a point. Sometimes good research evidence is simply not available. But that doesn’t mean that we should stay silent awaiting such research. We might be waiting a long time.
I wasn’t actually comparing Moses with the “cowardly, spineless wonder” that Bill referred to, but with the people who don’t have the gift “to make coherent, public stands for Christian causes” that you mentioned. But in any case, I don’t see why you think the comparison is not a valid one to make.
I didn’t dismiss the benefit that can come from competent argument; I was saying that it doesn’t always need to be like that. Neither Heidi nor Christine that Bill talked about had the opportunity to “hold people’s attention”, they only had a few seconds to make a point.
My comment about letters to the editor was from my own observation and experience. It was my subjective opinion, so sure, you can reject my opinion if you wish, but I still believe it to be correct. In the past, I have often sent well-written letters to the editor (well, I thought they were well written!), only to not have the published, or edited down to a few unsubstantiated assertions (because they cut out the substantiation I gave). Yet I’ve seen quite a few other letters published from a Christian viewpoint that were poorly written, to the point that I strongly suspected the editor would rather publish poorly-written ones than well-written ones to make Christians look unintellectual. And of course I don’t think that’s a good thing. But I have nevertheless formed the opinion that many such letters would at least show that there were many people to took that (particular Christian) view, and that with many people today numbers seem to count more than good argument.
That should not, of course, be taken to say that mediocre letters are just as good or effective as well-written ones. My comparison was with one well-written one versus 100 mediocre ones. A hundred well-written ones would be even better, of course. Much better. And that fits in with your (and my) desire to see people better taught on how to best do apologetics. But I’m wary about discouraging people from taking a stand unless they are “up to standard”, at least in some circumstances.
Thank you for your blog Bill; I always enjoy reading them. However, I must take issue with you regarding men not standing up to be counted. When men do the chances are that we will not hear about it because it will never be mentioned in the anti-Christian media.
On a personal basis, I have written a booklet (4″ x 6″, 24 pages) called “The Bible or The Koran; only one can be true” in which I give the origin, theme and evidence of reliability of both books. Although I do not draw a conclusion, it is obvious. I paid for its printing and it gives Christians the ability to defend the Bible against the Koran. It is selling very well in both Koorong and Word.
Nothing much has changed. There were three women at the foot of the Cross and one man. Search through the gospels and you will see that not one woman who met Christ let him down, not even Pilate’s wife.
As a woman, I am SO glad you said that Bill! I am sick to death of cowardly men, particularly pastors who won’t rebuke for fear of offending someone. It is men that God put in charge of leading the church, not women. Why are there only so few who are courageous?
Women can be spiritual warriors, but we weren’t given the role of pastors, elders and deacons. We have another job to do. I have written about that often on my blog.
As to the church’s cowardice in the face of islam, I have written on this here – (http://heleadsmesharon.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/deceiving-spirits.html) – for in the past I too committed this SIN, for it is a sin to be ashamed of the gospel – don’t kid yourselves like I used to.
For any of you in doubt as to what Jesus thinks on this whole idea, have a read of Matthew 10 and then if need be, confess your sin and be done with it like the rest of us have.
Thanks Gary. But did I say here that no man on the planet is taking a stand? Of course there are – many. And of course the lamestream media will not report them. I often write about them here. But my point remains: the bulk of men who call themselves Christian are not taking a stand for anything worthwhile. The point of this article obviously is to stir all men up to be all they can be for God, to be mighty warriors for Christ. I can’t see why any Christian should have a problem with that sort of exhortation. I am glad that your book is doing well!
I was a bit amused at the subject of letters to editors coming up in the discussion. I have probably sent a thousand or two or three letters to the Sydney Morning Herald over a period of 50 years, and have had over 300 published, plus many in other publications, but there’s not much courage needed for doing that. The bravery of Christine is in a different category altogether. I think rather than bravery, what we often need is simply for Christians to be discerning and to be willing to expend a little bit of effort at the keyboard. We also need more Christians to consider giving their first preference to a Christian party candidate and their second to the major party of their choice.
A good primary vote for Fred Nile’s party, for example, sends a message to all those who notice, without forcing the voter to waste his or her vote. In Australia we are blessed to have one of the most democratic voting systems in the world, giving us the opportunity to vote in that way. But so many Christians are too lazy it seems even to try to understand our simple voting system (I’m not referring to upper houses!).
We need bravery, but we also need just a modicum of effort by those who should be concerned.
And I think Nina’s comment is a bit of an unfair swipe at the thousands of men who have in the past and still do face rejection, imprisonment and death for the sake of the gospel . We only have to remember men such as John the Baptist, Stephen, Peter, Paul, Ignatius, Latimer, Ridley, Tyndale, the 200 ejected Anglicans in 1662, those men facing death willingly in many lands today, and so on and on.
But Christine is certainly an example to give us pause. There are plenty of professing Christian men who don’t seem willing to face even a little bit of plain old garden variety ridicule for the Lord’s sake.
See Bill we expect the leadership to come from the Church. But most of the men Church leaders are busy soliciting funds for one thing or another. Besides men are not usually very religious, some have to be dragged to church by the ear.
I Peter 3:1, Pat.
The Church of England is pursuing the same path of appeasement. In my diocese of Oxford there are classes on “Understanding Islam” and the apologists hold sway. Recently a woman preacher was invited to the church and she informed us that jihad was “mutual”. They are following the liberal-leftie consensus that prevails in the press and are very quick to condemn “islamophobia” while making excuses for decapitation. This attitude is taught in British schools too – they don’t read the Koran, they just learn to denounce and abuse anyone who criticizes it. Criticizing Islam is immediately labelled “racist”.
…who’s not to say that it is God’s purpose to use women in order to wake up manhood!? God used Mary Magdalene to bring the good news about Jesus’ resurrection to men… I know lots of men around me who stand up for Jesus & the truth, but you won’t hear about it, because it’s at their work places, or in the marketplace, or just in ‘insignificant’ places and they don’t have a platform on the internet to proclaim ‘their good deeds’… All glory to God, His thoughts & ways are higher than ours… I agree with the article, but as an ‘ex-feminist’ (delivered by the power of God, praise God) I struggled a bit with the general negativity about men, especially because the enemy is constantly trying to attack women regarding the incapability of men (especially wife/husband)… Let’s just pray for Christian men to rise up! In Jesus mighty Name! God bless you
Thanks Jennifer. As I said in a comment above: “The point of this article obviously is to stir all men up to be all they can be for God, to be mighty warriors for Christ.”
Real men can’t sit through rhetoric every week. They want action. That’s why they are so rare in church.
The church has filtered out the doers, and we are left with the singers and talkers, and those who like to sit.
It’s the same problem in our education system. If you can’t sit still for 6 hours a day, there must be something wrong with you.
1 Thess 1:5: because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake.
There are many cowards, male and female. Hundreds should have been protesting this event, both inside and outside the so-called Cathedral.
Also, I do not why any Christian would want to pray inside a mosque. I would think it best to avoid being there altogether.
Good article, Bill. It is a shame that less men are standing up these days. In my personal belief, I think that men in general have allowed themselves to become emasculated by the constant bombardment of teaching that typical male behaviour is inherently wrong.
It is important that we start to get back to teaching men to be men and not discourage manly behaviour. A biblical man leads his home and teaches his boys to grow into righteous men who follow after God and show courage in the face of all demonic attack.
We need to get back to the bible and what it teaches on being men of God rather than allowing this secular world to dictate to us it’s very poor model of what it considers men to be.
Thanks guys. And here we now have much more detail about Christine and why she did what she did:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/christian-booted-from-national-cathedral-speaks-out/#x4Q7ypGIL6ybMM6T.99
From the article:
“My blood began to boil as I read the comments of how this is to be such a wonderful event and how religious tolerance can, for the first time, be shown in our nation’s capital,” she said. Still, she had nervous doubts about making the 400-mile trip from Kingsport, Tennessee. “That article got my attention. And then I Googled the Washington National Cathedral, and I got more information about the service,” she said. She found out from the cathedral’s website that the event was for “invited guests only.” “That’s when I knew I had to be creative, and so did God,” she said.
Imagine driving 400 miles to proclaim biblical truth in the nation’s capital. She is a champ. She puts most Christian men to shame.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ray+comfort+huntington+beach
Thanks Patrick. Yes, no one can accuse Ray Comfort of being a wimp for Jesus.
Dear Bill,
It was women who had the courage to weep for Jesus on the way to calvary and it was women who tried to comfort him.One with her veil and one because she was His Mother.On the other hand Simon of Cyrene had to be ordered to carry His Cross.It is not surprising then that a courageous woman came forward and spoke the Truth in Washington cathedral.
I had to laugh at some of the comments above when people wanted statistical evidence for the cowardly behaviour before they would admit to it.
Of course, we do have the prophetess Deborah in the Bible too as an example of female bravery when the men were too gutless but you are certainly correct to outline the importance of this issue for both sexes:-
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Thanks Michael. Yes the prophets, Jesus and the disciples did not offer statistical evidence – they simply spoke truth. They often used deliberately inclusive and broad language, when of course they were aware of exceptions to the rule. And regrettably, I have had far too much proof of all this already here. Quite a few comments that came in to this post have been deleted, since they were so very upset at what I wrote in the article. Upset about a dysfunctional church? Nope. Upset about the ascendency of Islam? Nope. Upset about effeminate Christianity? Nope. They were upset at me for calling people ‘girlie men’ and the like. Talk about making my case for me. They are living proof about the very thing I have been talking about here. They get all bent out of shape over a few lousy words, while the church of Jesus Christ is going down the tubes. Yep, makes perfect sense. No wonder the church is making no difference in the world.
I appreciate your zeal for righteousness and the kingdom of God Bill and I think that Christine put a lot of women to shame, not just men.
I am glad that all the comments have established that there are plenty of godly courageous christian men out there, they may just not go to these events where the brave women had to stand up, because as Spencer said they are most likely working providing for their families when these events are on.
But with due respect, may I say that I believe your reference to ACTS 13 was not quite correct in this context, as Paul”s harsh words were spoken to a man who wanted the gifts of the spirit for money. I believe the issue in this case maybe the lack of courage in christian men, in which case Heb 10: 24 and 24 and Romans 15 1to 4 might be more appropriate. may be if you made your appeal to courage more specific and your criticism of short comings less general, you would not get people off side who are really on your side.
God bless and strengthen you all out there who are doing God’s work unflinchingly and willing to pay the cost required for it.
Many blessings
Ursula Bennett
Thanks Ursula. But of course in the three articles I link to above I offered dozens of examples of strong, forceful and cutting language used in Scripture. I simply mentioned the Acts passage because that was where I was reading at the time. So respectfully I believe my case still fully stands.
Hey Bill I am with you 100%! I have been saved for just over 7 years and from the first 3-4 months of being saved I was taken back by the lack of BRASS with the men in the Body of Christ! I have been in Men’s Ministry and it is like finding a diamond in a rough to find a Christ follower who is a man and willing to confess Christ no matter what the cost! The sad part is the cost is not even high in the US but it is going to be high soon, and we will truly see the cowards. I would love to talk to you if you are willing please send me an email. With personal regards, Tony
Thank you for this post! Many years ago my husband I joined an ELCA Lutheran Church of the liberal persuasion. Women were permitted to be elders and I soon noticed that the more women assumed leadership positions, the more that men acquiesced and let them take over. Unbelieving professors non- members, invited from the local university, “taught” adult Sunday school. We left and joined the conservative Missouri Synod Lutheran Church where at least the Word of God was taught and professed! I agree with Ann Jones that at least someone is speaking out, but I am ashamed and sad that Christian men have acquiesced and rejected the Lord’s “Divine order” with men in leadership. In no way do I believe that this in any way diminishes a woman’s value, worth, or intelligence in the eyes of the Lord. I absolutely do believe in a Divine order – As the mother of daughters and a son, they ARE different. One is not superior to the other, but they are different from birth. To deny the gender differences is foolish. As I see the changes in our society world wide I am appalled and afraid – I try not to be afraid, but I am for my children and grandchildren. When I see the courage of Christine Weick and Heidi Munk, I feel the same “holy anger” and it encourages me to speak out. On another note, I read that the CEO of Starbucks recently said they do not want people who support Biblical marriage in their ranks–I assume that they also not want them as customers? It amazes me that any business would include a philosophy of you must agree with them politically, morally –I am astonished and dismayed.
Bill:
I actually got a hold of Christine’s personal letter before WND interviewed her on Sunday. Robert Spencer had the article and a brave soul published her letter.
I tried to get in touch with her, but her facebook account was taken down, even though she said Sunday that she posted to it.
Here’s the problem as I see it –
I shared Christine’s letter with a woman, who said Friday night “Wow, this is being led by God” Today, Tuesday, she said “Christine went wrong, because she is judgemental, and did not walk in love”
So satan has placed a mindset into the body of Christ that stopping evil is bad. In fact he’s been so successful at this, that Christians are afraid to confront anything.
But the biggest problem is this.. men are pansies, because they are NOT spending time with God the Father, indeed most do NOT know how. When is the last time you ever heard a man share about his devotion and private prayer time and above all, worship time with God, the Father?
It is the Father who teaches us men how to confront evil, how to blow the socks off satan and sound trash and defeat him. It is the Father’s authority which is lacking and we cannot have it, unless we spend time with Him.
And I will boldly say this to the whole world. Watch out! God the Father is going to move with real authority! And He is going to move through real men who won’t put up with evil anymore!
I have recently prayed prayers, and people got moved out of the way. Others have prayed and some people moved to the next life sooner than expected.
Of course we have love for all, Jesus died for all mankind, but he also braided a cord for a whip and dished it out.
satan, the coward, knows what is coming, that’s why he’s going overboard on tolerance and permissive love and hate crimes.
Bill, you are right, where are the men? We have wimped out with God the Father, that is what is wrong, and we better get there fast and spend time with Him, then we’ll have that authority whose loss you lament.
Consider me a wimp who is learning to become a man.
Sock it to ’em Bill and make no apologies. Your stance on this is absolutely shot on. I’ve been evangelising and being an apologist for Christ for 35 years and I’m not afraid to speak my mind. But sometimes I feel like I’m the only one out there standing up and speaking the truth about Jesus and the gospel. While I know that this is is not the case, the spinelessness of so many Christian men who are afraid to speak up these days is alarming…and is often only matched by many Christian’s woeful ignorance of Islam and many other important topics. Recently a Jewish friend jokingly asked when I was going into hospital. Curious I asked him to explain. He said: ‘To get that damn book cut out of your hand!…I’ve seen you around Adelaide for 25 years and I have never seen you without a book…and they are all ‘religious, or about Islam or science and stuff…you really believe all that stuff eh?’ He again added: ‘You’re the only Christian I know that talks about it all the time…let alone believes it.’ Isn’t that sad, I thought. WHERE ARE ALL THE MEN BILL…it’s a GREAT and pertinent question. Keep it up Bill…your ministry and blog have been a great source of inspiration and information to me. Just on books. Reading a book in cafes, pubs or where ever, is a great cross-over tool and has lead to numerous conversations about the Lord, over many years. I recommend it. I love Top Gear too…but it’s hardly an education. As guilty as anyone else, I do wonder how I will be judge on what I did with my time. Bless you Bill.
Many thanks Ged. Keep on keeping on!
FRANKLIN GRAHAM TAKES HARD STAND AGAINST THIS MUSLIM PRAYER
Franklin Graham slammed the National Cathedral in Washington for allowing a Muslim prayer service in the Christian house of worship. (CharismaNews file)
Franklin Graham, who is widely respected as the heir-apparent to his father, iconic evangelist Billy Graham, isn’t shy about speaking out for God’s truth. So when he saw Christians compromise their principles to reach out to false religions in the name of ecumenism, it was no surprise that it drew a harsh response.
Graham this week slammed the National Cathedral in Washington for allowing Muslims to hold their first prayer service there last Friday.
“It’s sad to see a church open its doors to the worship of anything other than the One True God of the Bible who sent His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to earth to save us from our sins,” said Graham, head of the Samaritan’s Purse humanitarian aid ministry.
The younger Graham took to Facebook and spoke to the news media to register his extreme displeasure that a Christian cathedral—long a Washington landmark—would willingly be handed over to Muslims by the Cathedral’s Episcopalian leadership.
Muslims, in separate groups of men and women, took off their shoes, spread their prayer rugs facing east toward Mecca, turning their backs on the crucifix in front of the chapel, knelt and prayed.
“Jesus was clear when He said, ‘I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me,'” (John 14:6) Graham said in a Facebook post.
Of the many comments on his post, Carol Layaog wrote, “The Lord told us these things must be, in the last days they will call evil good and good they will call evil! That doesn’t make it any less heartbreaking! ‘I came to them and they knew me not!'”
Some suggested that Christians and Muslims serve the same God. Graham disagreed strongly—as did Christine Weick, 50, from Michigan, who rose in the midst of the service and shouted, “Jesus Christ died on that cross. He is the reason we are to worship only Him. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. We have … allowed you your mosques in this country. Why don’t you worship in your mosques and leave our churches alone? We are a country founded on Christian principles.”
She was escorted from the cathedral and turned over to police, who took her outside and let her go without charges.
See Website: http://www.charismanews.com/us/46196-franklin-graham-takes-hard-stand-against-this-muslim-prayer