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This is How Homosexual Marriage Impacts Me

Jul 1, 2015

I have lost count of the number of times homosexual activists and their supporters have asked me the question: “How does gay marriage personally impact you?” Incredibly, they really believe that this question is some sort of knock-down argument which will forever silence me and others. Yeah right – as if.

I well remember one of these occasions. I had a radical reporter from a leftist newspaper who was likely a lesbian herself ask me this question over and over. I tried to assure her it certainly does affect me personally, and I told her that just an hour earlier I was physically manhandled by angry homosexual activists trying to prevent me from entering a pro-family conference.

As these militants were chanting their pro-homosexual marriage slogans, they were abusing me and others seeking to enter the event. It was only because police were on hand to take on the love brigade that we were able to make it in. I would say that is one clear way in which this impacts on me – personally.

homo 80But of course it impacts on everyone. I told this reporter that my new book offers nearly 200 documented examples of people who have been fined, fired or jailed for simply disagreeing with homosexual marriage. They were certainly personally impacted by it.

And we must not forget the normative effect of the law. When a law passes, it is making a statement – it is telling us society approves of this or disapproves of that, and so must we. So when it passes a law allowing homosexual marriage it is telling everyone that this is what is right, and you must get on board – or else.

So the heavy hand of the law is used against all opposition. There are now thousands of examples of this from just the past few years. Simply to say on your own private Facebook page that you believe marriage should be between a man and a woman can result in you losing your job. I would call that being personally impacted.

The very fact that I regularly receive hate mail and the occasional death threat for daring to affirm heterosexual marriage certainly is another indication of how this impacts on me and my family in a very real and personal manner.

And I am not at all being melodramatic when I say that I fully expect that in the not too distant future this website will be shut down by the militants, and I may well be thrown in jail for so-called hate speech. I personally know of others who have received similar treatment, and it simply gets worse each passing day.

We are only beginning to see for example the horrific fallout in the US over the Supreme Court decision to redefine marriage. When a universal and historic institution like marriage is redefined, every single person is impacted one way or another.

And Christians who also push this baloney about not being impacted are a part of the problem. Sure, if you are in bed with the homosexualists, and/or are too cowardly and into men-pleasing to open your mouth about marriage then you won’t be impacted – at least at first. But any Christian who stands true on the Word of God will be impacted immediately and comprehensively.

I have been saying for years now: everything changes when homosexual marriage comes into law. But I am not a lone voice here. Just today an American writer, Matt Walsh, penned a great piece saying the very same thing: “Yes, Gay Marriage Hurts Me Personally”.

He is worth quoting at length. He begins by offering us a sampling of the nasty hate mail he gets (hey, I think we both get the same mail from the same folks in the tolerance brigade!). He then writes:

There’s nothing like being called a bigoted pile of garbage in the first sentence and being told in the next that love has won. Indeed, you know love has emerged victorious when a bunch of liberals are screaming in your face, calling your children ugly, and urging you to kill yourself.
Progressivism, as we’ve seen, is a bubbling cauldron of vile, hideous hatred. They dress it up in vacuous, absurd little symbols and hashtags and bright colors, yet the elites who drive the gay agenda are not out to spread love and happiness, but hostility and suspicion. And the obedient lemmings who blindly conform, with rainbows in their Facebook photos and chanting whatever motto they’ve been assigned, don’t really understand what they’re doing or why they’re doing it. The fact that this is the same ideology to come up with vapid slogans like #LoveWins is an irony too bewildering to comprehend.

He continues:

But I wasn’t especially troubled by the progressive lynch mob and their vulgar, wretched, hateful “love.” I’m used to it. I’ve been more concerned by the large number of self-proclaimed Christians and conservatives who’ve repeatedly informed me that the whole gay marriage issue isn’t important. “It won’t affect us,” they tell me over and over again. It’s not relevant to our lives. We aren’t hurt by it. Who cares? It’s all good. Whatevs, man. There are matters more urgent than truth and morality and the future of the human race. Like, what about the economy and stuff?
I’m not proud to say it, but I feel an immense disgust for these Apathetic, Weak, Oblivious, Scared, Distracted, Impotent, Frivolous, Christians And Conservatives (AWOSDIFCACs for short). I’m not saying disgust is the correct emotional response, but I admit I experience it. I can deal with liberals. They’re just wrong about everything. Fine. That’s simple. But AWOSDIFCACs know and understand the truth, yet yawn or shrink away in fear.

He then explains how wrong this sort of thinking is:

First, since when are we only supposed to care about things that will physically or financially affect us? Don’t we normally condemn a person who fails to act or think or speak simply because he, himself, individually, isn’t yet feeling the effect of it? Don’t we criticize a person who doesn’t care until he’s getting punched in the nose by the problem?
When we’re dealing with moral quandaries — questions of right and wrong, truth and lies — it is not a legitimate argument to say “it doesn’t affect me.” Its effect on you is irrelevant to the issue. What kind of moral idiot measures the impact of a certain evil on his own life and calibrates his concern accordingly? We might all do this sometimes, but it’s a weakness. It’s shameful. It’s cowardice and self-interest. It’s not good. You shouldn’t be proud of it.
Second, as a member of society, State-imposed falsehoods do affect you. Marriage is a certain thing with a certain nature and definition. When the State mandates that the thing is something other than what it is, and has a purpose other than its actual purpose, you are now living under a tyranny of confusion. The severity of that confusion depends on the degree of the falsehood. So if the government announced tomorrow that we must all pretend penguins are elephants and cats are squirrels, I expect I wouldn’t be seriously harmed. I might be helped because I could finally get rid of my wife’s annoying cat on the grounds that I don’t want squirrels in my house. But I would still oppose this redefinition because it’s not true, and I prefer Truth….
An improper understanding of a squirrel is one thing, though. An improper understanding of marriage, on the other hand, will destroy us. Marriage is the bedrock upon which all of human civilization rests. To expand its definition into oblivion is to weaken and destabilize it.
Hurt? Of course. You’re hurt. Everyone is hurt. This is our foundation, and we all depend on it, no matter if we’re separated from the issue by a few degrees. If your house is falling into a sinkhole, would you say it doesn’t hurt you because you happen to be standing on the top floor?
Why do you think liberals care so much about this? If it doesn’t matter, why have they dedicated years to bringing about this past Friday? Because they want gay people to love each other? Nonsense. There was never any law preventing any gay person from loving anyone or anything. The State never had any interest in encouraging, preventing, or otherwise regulating love. The State does have an interest in the foundation of civilization, which is the family. That’s why, up until recently, it recognized True Marriage.
Gay marriage is not an essential or true institution, nor does it serve any real purpose in society. There’s no practical or moral reason for the romantic lives of homosexuals to be recognized or elevated or protected in any way. Even most homosexual activists know this, despite pushing for gay marriage. Gay couples in many cases aren’t monogamous, and gay activists like Dan Savage have been very enthusiastic in extoling the virtues of open relationships and fornication.
This whole gay marriage debate is about opening up the lifelong monogamous bond of matrimony to a community that often doesn’t desire a lifelong monogamous bond. Do you understand what’s going on here? They don’t want marriage as it currently is; they want to change it into something else.

He goes into some detail about how everything changes, including especially the impact on the churches:

The first step is the churches. There are already calls to take away their tax exempt status if they oppose gay marriage. Notice when this happens, and it will happen, they will only revoke it from churches, not Planned Parenthood or public universities. Only the churches. And likely only the ones who don’t toe the line. Many churches, although they provide invaluable services to their communities, will not be able to survive the tax burden. Hundreds will close their doors basically overnight.
Next, they attack the churches legally. Remember, liberals tell us gay marriage is a human right — something akin to the right to be free from slavery. To oppose it is to essentially support the dehumanization of gay people. But churches would surely not be permitted to keep slaves, nor would they be allowed to do anything else that actually infringes on human rights. Therefore, if gay marriage is in that category, then the argument is already in place to legally prohibit churches from denying unions to gays.
This is not some kind of dire apocalyptic prophesy. It is dire, and it is apocalyptic, but I’m not speaking as a prophet. I need no divine vision to merely read the words of the Supreme Court and of our country’s most powerful leaders. After the ruling, Hilary Clinton, potentially our nation’s next president (God save us), said:
While we celebrate today, our work won’t be finished until every American can not only marry, but live, work, pray, learn and raise a family free from discrimination and prejudice.
Doesn’t affect you? Hillary Clinton just advertised the fact that she intends to investigate ‘where people pray’ to see if they’re suffering ‘discrimination.’ I would think, in her mind, a gay person being read Romans or Corinthians or Leviticus — the parts where homosexual sex is condemned as abominable and mortally sinful — would qualify as discrimination.

He concludes:

Finally, when the churches have been financially blackmailed and legally punished, and marriage has become an institution populated by all forms of depravity and corruption, all that’s left is the end of America, or what remains of it.
Some might say that’s already happened, and I wouldn’t disagree. But eventually we’ll arrive at a point where even the ones who think it “doesn’t affect them” will have to finally face the harsh reality that all of this really does, and always did.
But by then it will be too late.

Please read his entire article, then read it again, then share it with everyone you know. I have been warning people about all this for decades now, and it seems that these warnings mostly fall on deaf ears. But perhaps if enough people start making and sharing these warnings, maybe some of God’s frozen chosen will wake from their slumber and act before they lose it all. Just maybe.

www.theblaze.com/contributions/yes-gay-marriage-hurts-me-personally/

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36 Responses to This is How Homosexual Marriage Impacts Me

  • May God have mercy upon the land…

  • It might not make much difference who the next American President is, but Hillary seems to be the worst option right now.

  • Yes, as some of you may, or may not, be aware, I can vouch for the truth of this. Only yesterday I had to ‘unfriend’ two member of my own family to avoid WW3 on my Facebook page… and all because I posted a video of Peter, Paul and Mary singing The Wedding Song which includes the words

    “A man shall leave his mother and a woman leave her home
    And they shall travel on to where the two shall be as one.
    As it was in the beginning is now and til the end
    Woman draws her life from man and gives it back again….”

    Who would have thought, 40 years ago, that this song could possibly be seen as controversial? And yet my own daughter (a ‘liberal Christian’) and granddaughter (an atheist) became so vocal and caustic in their opposition to my comment:

    “Looking back to that time when life was simple, and there was no question about the fact that marriage was a sacred union between one man and one woman…”

    … that I had to delete them. After a sleepless night I realized that this is just the beginning. We need the boldness of Aslan and the wisdom of Solomon in this new, toxic environment where we find ourselves today.

  • Great article again Bill. Many thanks!
    I have just been unfriended by my daughter-in-law for negatively commenting on her daughter’s Facebook
    for employing the rainbow over her picture.
    Sad days indeed!

  • For everything we lose here, we gain 10-100 fold in heaven, if we lose family over this, we will gain far more spiritual family members in compensation.

    I for one will not be involving myself in any non heterosexual marriage, in any way shape or form.

  • All Faithful Christian Pastors/Leaders should surrender their Marriage Licenses and only marry one man and one woman in the sight of God. No State involvement. A ‘Surrender your Marriage License Day’ should be declared and a united statement made.

  • I hate to be just a little graphic but I have recently read an article by a physician concerning the number of male homosexuals who engage in anal sex or the use of overly large prostate stimulators and how those that practice that act are far more prone to bowel incontinence and bowel cancer and (“having to use bum plugs”) than that experienced by normal heterosexuals. Perhaps when that happens they may finally realise what they have dropped themselves into.

  • Yes Dennis it is a very unhealthy and high risk lifestyle, as I carefully document in my books..

  • “A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household”; Matt. 10.36 This time it’s via Facebook. Oh how wretched, now we have to fight our families online in full view of everyone. Having a rainbow-face used to be part of children’s creative fun….now it’s another method of being marked by the Devil.

  • Is the bible the text book of Christians, or is it not? Therein lies the issue. The architecture of Christianity is not up for debate, it’s already decided.

  • Hi Bill, I thought I would link to a “wnd” article about the pushback that has begun.

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/negative-reaction-to-gay-marriage-surges/

    Hope you don’t mind me linking to a third party. Please feel free to delete it if it is inappropriate.

  • It personally affects me by trampling something I personally hold as sacred. It devalues all marriages, including mine, by not recognizing the gravity of the pledge of lifelong fidelity and it prevents me from many businesses and apparently from being a manager in many companies and government departments, just to add injury to insult. Not to mention completely disrespecting Christianity, the religion that gave us freedom.

    The devaluation of marriage is demonstrated by the halving of the marriage rate in the Netherlands and I am a little surprised in the land of litigation (the US) there has not been a class action against the federal government. I would have thought you could easily get 5 or 10 million couples to join and ask for at least $200,000 each for the devaluation of their marriage. That makes say a trillion dollar law suit. That sounds more than reasonable for the damage that has been done.

  • Dear Bill, Thank you for this. I was asked a similar question when preaching at the London ‘Gay Pride’ parade on Saturday. What gruelling spiritual warfare this witness turned out to be.

    Yes, same sex marriage does impact me, because the definition of marriage has been changed for the whole of society, and schoolchildren in particular must be taught the new orthodoxy.

    Yes, it does impact me, because the centre of my capital city (even Oxford Street) has been closed down to celebrate the breaking of God’s moral law.

    Yes it does impact me, because “righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people”, and I am part of the nation knowing the reproach of the holy God.

    Yes, it does impact me, because the freedom of Christians in the workplace is being curtailed because of the all-prevailing political correctness.

    Yes, it does impact me, because the LGBT movement has caused the Queen’s coronation oath in 1953 to maintain God’s laws according to Scripture to be utterly ignored.

  • I am so overwhelmed by all this same sex media. Last night I was so angry with ABC news in my lounge, that I almost shook the whole bottle of HP sauce on my meat. I can’t take any more. I call out to God I stand in the gap I pray for politicians. I write letters to local MP and other places and ABC Q & I when Fred Nile was left on his own. How long do we have to have this wickedness in our midst. These guys are unbelievable so far left but they are our lawyers, solicitors, teachers, journalist supposed to be the intelligent ones. God have mercy on us. Australian believers in Jesus please stand up, We cannot allow what Obama has done this week. Prime Minister Abbott must not give in to this increasing pressure. Our job is to keep lifting him before Jesus.

  • Amen Heathermary. And Peter. And Michael, etc.

  • Thinking about the rainbow; we must not let the gay activists steal this symbol from us. It is both a symbol of judgement; as well as a promise of never again. But God’s judgements come in many ways. That’s why the rainbow flag is an ironic symbol. Shortly, powers that are now in place will be there no longer. For example, are we on the brink of international economic meltdown with Greece? Maybe. Maybe not. Nevertheless, “He who sits in the heavens laughs.” (Psalm 2.) There are seasons in all of this. Trials certainly appear to be coming, but the point is to remain faithful and rejoice in what God is doing and calling us into. Increasingly, I have come to believe that our God seeks to bring revival in the face of great opposition and even persecution. May it start in me.

  • I am really shocked at so called Christians that don’t believe it’s anything other than allowing two people who love each other to marry. They even quote the Bible to justify it. One friend who I thought was a devout Roman Catholic posted this meme…( to deafening silence I might add) http://www.tickld.com/x/pastor-just-said-something-that-blew-his-entire-congregation-away

    I love Matt Walsh’s comments and your commentaries and recommend them to all.

  • Since I posted my previous comment, my beautiful headstrong young atheistic granddaughter who is studying social work and law has told me she wants to have nothing more to do with me due to my obviously delusional thinking regarding same sex marriage and my Christian beliefs. Moreover, her mother (my daughter) and her younger sister are both being dragged into this maelstrom and sacrificing their own faith in the process. It is not a pretty picture.

  • Stand strong Ann. Will pray for you.

  • Thanks Bill. Your prayers would be much appreciated.

  • I don’t often post twice, but I just learned today that WordPress also was displaying rainbows all over its main page at the weekend. And I was appalled at so-called Christians making posts to say how wonderful they thought the SCOTUS decision was! Examples on here:

    https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/love-wins-lgbtq/

    Ann J; we’ll stand strong with you too. There must be countless numbers of people who are going through this psychological torture. If it’s any small comfort, my own son also thinks I’m deluded in my beliefs but refrains somewhat from making forthright statements.

  • I’m a retired corporate writer of speeches & policy papers in New York. My belief is that public opinion has been moving in the wrong direction about this because the position favoring traditional marriage needs to be argued differently.

    When seen clearly, there is ABUNDANT AND COMPELLING evidence right now that society needs to restore its culture of traditional marriage in every way. The evidence lies in one of the biggest national disasters of our history, and that is fatherlessness, the most significant root cause of all our social ills from incarceration to drug abuse to mental illness. Now, the gay-rights advocates will answer that you can’t blame them for that problem, and that is true, but it misses the point. We have to take a step back and ask why there is so much fatherlessness, and it is clear that one very important reason is that we are no longer celebrating the distinctive psychological characteristics of men as significant in child-rearing. Women also have distinctive psychological characteristics, the point being that the two genders are not interchangeable. By far the most important advantage to society of giving people the privileges and honors of marriage is that society reaps the reciprocal benefit of having the maximum number of its members growing up with a motherly influence and a fatherly influence in their developing years.

    The problem rhetorically has been that the same-sex relationship advocates have been able to make it look like what they want doesn’t have any connection with the rest of society and therefore, why not? The argument must be placed in the framework of the rampant and growing social ills (for instance, the prisons are almost five times bigger than they were 30 years ago with 90% of the inmates having no good recollection of a father). When it comes to male-female differences, the argument should also be framed as much as possible in terms of common observation and experience.

    At the same time, if people want to get academic about it, it’s worth noting that the exploding field of brain science has made psychological gender differences, including brain structure and hormones, increasingly visible and measurable. Gender-blurring will eventually be a lost cause. In the field of social psychology, it’s become clear that you can speak of gender differences without putting women down, because the most recent research emphasizes the particular strengths of women, such as greater discernment in close relationships. It’s time to reinforce the psychological groundwork of a stable society. That affects EVERYone.

  • Posted this page on Facebook 24 hrs ago. A challenging graphic among the rainbow faces, hoping for some balance and thank you for it.

  • Ann, that is truly sad. I, too, am praying for you. It’s chilling to realise that Jesus foretold exactly this sort of family tragedy (Mark 13:12).

    God bless you, Bill, for your Christian leadership in all this.

    Best regards
    Brian

  • Thanks John. Yes quite right. I have written often on fatherlessness in book and articles, eg:

    https://billmuehlenberg.com/2013/05/17/the-facts-on-fatherlessness-part-one/

  • I don’t need some instant Brain Snap to be able to see that same sex Marraige and Morality are the single greatest issue to face mankind throughout all it’s History. As morality declines so does everything else decline in line with it. It goes all the way in saying that the Family Unit is not the Crux and Crucible and the Foundation upon which all Society is Built.

    Take away the Family Unit, you take away God and Christ and supplement and surplant the Family with some far away abject distraction and Lie as to what Mortal Life is meant to truly be with it’s inherent Benefits and Safety.

    Damn the Rainbow Warriors and the Pink Gaystapo and I look forward to standing as a Witness against them at the Judgment Bar of Christ unless they fully Repent and respect God’s Will for Men. I fear no Man, Group or Organization, but Reverence God and Christ and know where my Loyalties Lie.

    Leigh D Stebbins

  • Deeply impressed by the power of Matt Walsh’s reasoned piece. Thanks for sharing it with us.
    Also enjoyed hearing you on CultureWatch Radio.

  • It’s good that Austria has rejected same sex marriage.

  • Thanks for pointing to your excellent piece on fatherlessness, Bill. It would take some time, but this emphasis is the way we can start walking this whole issue back toward sanity. For one thing, this takes the focus away from homosexuality, a subject on which very few have any first-hand knowledge and places on something on which everyone has first-hand knowledge — the psychological differences between male and female. If we can all figure out how to celebrate positive gender differences, then this will benefit 100% of the population and, along the way, people will begin to ask basic questions about the 3% of the population that is gay, such as, “What in the world makes you think that adding an extra man in the life of a little girl is the same as her having a mommy?”

  • Christopher McNicol said,
    “Thinking about the rainbow; we must not let the gay activists steal this symbol from us.”

    I’ve waged my own similar campaign for years now Christopher. As part of my own campaign I WON’T use the word “gay” to describe “homosexual”. When I grew up gay meant happy and carefree, something the homosexual demographic in the main certainly is NOT! If anything I’d describe them as the “sads” – the saddest bunch in the community..

  • Sorry to hear Ann’s granddaughter has the attitude she has. Unfortunately its typical of progressives to show this sort of intolerance. Conservatives rarely do this. It also shows what indoctrination centers our higher learning has become. I also would think that any family member who thinks my principles are worth sacrificing the relationship for are not worth having around!

  • Dear Bill,

    I strongly believe in the mercy and love of God but judgment I feel is definitely coming on the USA and the World. This appalling decision to support SSM by the US Supreme Court on Friday 8 days ago I believe is the final nail in the coffin for the USA.

    Satan must be overjoyed. God’s created order and ordained family unit has been white-anted by 5 liberal judges who think they are wiser than God.

    No surprises with Obama’s response. I don’t trust or admire him one bit. I think he has an agenda to ultimately destroy the USA, morally and financially. By the time the US population wakes up it will be too late, he will have moved onto another evil mission. Readers may think I am being too dramatic, but I am confident I am right.

    As Mena Lee Grebin has stated if God Almighty doesn’t bring judgement on the USA he owes Sodom and Gommorah an apology. We as a Nation within the World will certainly be affected by the USA and Europe meltdowns still to come.

    If Shorten. Turnbull and Plibersek blindly continue to push for SSM and follow the US and Ireland like unwise lemmings we as Australians cannot expect to see the blessing of God on our Nation. We will instead see increased judgement because we have turned away from God’s directions on marriage .

    Turnbull’s argument that Australia is lagging behind the rest of the world in our slow approval of SSM is nonsense. It a rubbish argument. Wide is the road that leads to destruction so does this mean we should all blindly follow this way. Of course not!. Sadly most humans are heading for hell.

    Malcolm may represent a gay area but it’s about time he operated in the Nation interest to protect the family unit and innocent young men who will become enslaved to a lifestyle of perversity and death.

    Please continue to pray for Tony Abbott and Senators Eric Ebetz and Cory Bernardi. There appears now to be few politicians with any backbone.

    Labor parliamentarians who are supposedly Christian who support gay marriage include Bill Shorten and Tony Burke. I don’t have a lot of respect for either of these men.

    Tony Abbott maintains a steadfast cautious approach to SSM so he deserves our praise and support as Christians.

    If he is on the wrong side of politics for many Australian Christians then it’s time to for Christian Labor voters to grow up and start reading what the Bible says about homosexuality. Vote and support politicians who walk and create policies that are Bible based not with a PC basis .

    How can any Christian can support Bill Shorten when he is supporting a lifestyle that God says is highly displeasing to him? It really is beyond me.

    SSM will result in more innocent young men lured into eternal death. How can Christians stand aside and do nothing.

    Sorry for the rave. Now back to your post “This is How Homosexual Marriage impacts me.”

    100% correct.
    I believe USA Pastors, individual Christians and USA Churches and Christian organisations will now enter a phase of renewed persecution in the USA.

    Religious freedoms and freedom of speech are under pressure. Churches will face significant legal costs to defend their right not to marry and to publish the Holy Bible’s position on homosexuality. Many will just cave in to the pressure.

    Will Hillsong New York Church also cave in and marry gay men in due course? Possibly. but I hope not

    See link on he coming persecution in the USA.

    http://z3news.com/w/obama-brings-persecution-america-thunderbolt/

    Thanks again Bill and the Christian remnant in Australia for your significant efforts and courage again SSM.

    I will be very distressed if SSM is approved in Australia.

    Philip Browne
    Sydney

  • Hi Bill, thanks for this article. Please give us as much support here in Australia as you can. No way on this planet can we change the marriage act in this country. We have a great P.M in this country who does not support the abomination of gay marriage, he needs all the support he can get.
    Thanks from Australia.

  • Thanks Wendy. Well, given that I have been living in Australia for the past 25 years, I am trying to do my bit to support marriage here!

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