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We Told You So: Fake Marriage Impacts ALL Of Us

Nov 19, 2018

“Nothing will change when homosexual marriage is legalised.” “Stop fearmongering – this will not affect you.” “Allowing homosexuals to marry will not impact anyone else.” “The bigots are lying about how homosexual marriage will have negative consequences.”

These and dozens of other lame mantras were repeated ad infinitum, ad nauseam before Australia went down the path of fake marriage. The other side insisted that absolutely nothing would change if this went through, while I and others warned constantly and fervently that EVERYTHING would change.

Well, we are at that place some of us knew we would be – that place where all we can do is say, “We told you so”. We warned you, we pleaded with you, we did everything we could to wake up a sleeping populace that going down the path of sham marriage would impact us all, and that Christians especially would pay a heavy price.

I have documented the many cases of anti-Christian bigotry that have been taking place since that fateful day when Australia declared war on real marriage. And the list grows steadily, relentlessly. The latest case is the most recent example of the pink mafia in action.

I had written before about a lovely Christian couple who had a very successful marriage magazine, and how they were starting to be harassed by rainbow militants. Because homosexual couples were not appearing in its pages, and their nefarious agenda was not being featured in the magazine, they were targeted – big time. As I said in that article:

Oh the horror. That is just about as bad as David Attenborough’s Blue Planet not featuring cisgender swordfish, demi-boy blowfish, tri-gender octopi, or gender nonconforming tuna. When will all this hatred and discrimination end? How dare that dinosaur Attenborough keep reinforcing his bigoted and non-inclusive agenda? Liberate the seas now!
billmuehlenberg.com/2018/09/03/the-latest-in-radical-rainbow-repression-and-revisionism/

Well, just a few months after writing that piece, White Magazine is no more. Here is how one news outlet covered the story:

An Australian bridal magazine will close after contributors revealed it was refusing to feature same-sex weddings in a decision which caused controversy and saw advertisers withdraw their sponsorship. A farewell note published on White Magazine’s website on Saturday said they’d recently experienced “a flood of judgement” and lost a number of advertisers. “We have had to recognise the reality that White Magazine is no longer economically viable,” the publishers said. The 12-year-old magazine, its team and advertisers had been targeted by a campaign, and couples featured in its pages had been the subject of online abuse, the post said.
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/wedding-magazine-closes-after-refusing-to-feature-samesex-couples/news-story/c23855fc8005ec07d3cfa5144eef63b2

But the farewell post by the Christian couple Luke and Carla Burrell is worth looking at. They begin this way:

FAREWELL
Love is a word that gets used a lot in our industry. So much so that the word can lose its value. But love is a powerful force that can change the world. Love gives hope where there is none. It gives peace when there is none. Twelve years ago, we started White Magazine to tell a different kind of story about marriage. Back then the wedding industry was a pretty bleak place. Rather than celebrating love and commitment, it commercialised weddings and devalued the seriousness of the commitment couples were making to each other.

Celebrating love and relationships – rather than selling products – has always been White’s message. Last year the Australian law was changed to allow same-sex couples to marry. Since then we have been asked repeatedly why our magazine had not yet featured all couples.

Like many people, we have had to reflect on our beliefs, not to judge ourselves or others, but to intentionally make space for new conversations. It’s a long and continuing journey, it’s not black and white, there are so many grey areas that need to be explored. Our greatest mandate is to love and the biggest question we’ve continued to ask ourselves throughout it is, how do we best love?

White Magazine has always been a secular publication, but as its publishers, we are Christian. We have no agenda but to love. We have no desire to create a social, political or legal war, which only divides people further and does more damage than good. To us, our faith is anchored in love without judgement.

Recently we’ve experienced a flood of judgement. We know much of that comes hand-in-hand with running a public magazine. But we are also just two humans fumbling our way through these big questions and like anyone else, we don’t have all the answers.

Instead of allowing us the space to work through our thoughts and feelings, or being willing to engage in brave conversations to really hear each other’s stories, some have just blindly demanded that we pick a side. We’re not about sides, we’re about love, patience and kindness. A campaign was launched targeting the magazine, our team and our advertisers.

Couples who have featured in our magazine have also been the subject of online abuse despite their individual beliefs. We’re really saddened by this. The result has been that a number of advertisers withdrew their sponsorship out of fear of being judged, or in protest. We have had to recognise the reality that White Magazine is no longer economically viable.
whitemag.com/blog/official-statement/?q=%2Fblog%2Fofficial-statement%2F&fbclid=IwAR2CmGUawbKXrskggx-li8aSDBdjOCXPcCX9i6vL1WnFWRFl0PzoLz6y6aA&v=6cc98ba2045f

Included in their article is a moving 4-minute video in which the couple try to explain what the magazine was about and how sad they are that political correctness has brought their business to a premature end. It is well worth watching and sharing with others.

Thankfully a few others have seen this for what it is: a war on Christians and Christianity. Two days ago the Weekend Australian ran an article on this. It begins:

Christians are being run out of business, hounded by boycotts and bullied by activists, for adhering to their faith a year after the celebrated same-sex-marriage vote. In a sign Australia faces a “crisis of freedom”, The Weekend Australian can reveal a successful international wedding magazine that chose not to feature gay couples will today announce its decision to shut down after becoming the target of an intimidation campaign.

The founders of White magazine, Christians Luke and Carla Burrell, said they were the targets of an activist campaign that deterred their advertisers, frightened their staff and included threats of physical harm because of their stand on same-sex weddings. The couple, who have published White for 12 years, said the campaign was triggered by last year’s plebiscite and saw them branded homophobes and bigots. One individual warned their house would be burned down.

With the government poised to respond to a long-awaited review into religious freedoms amid concern gay school students and teachers will be subject to discrimination, the Burrells expressed deep frustration that activists had forced them to “draw the curtain on this part of our lives”.

“We hope that one day soon our society can learn to accept people’s differences and different points of view and love each other no matter what,” said the couple, who have been married for 17 years.
www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/religious-freedom-lost-as-white-magazine-shuts/news-story/5c00c977426bd2228f4e0613b34524aa 

So there you go folks: once again, the homosexual gestapo have succeeded in bullying, persecuting and hounding out of existence a Christian business, all because those involved dared to resist rainbow hegemony. For daring to stay true to their Christian convictions and for daring to stand by their consciences, they are now out of a job.

Just add them to the list of all the other Christians – and others – who have lost their employment, or were fined, or imprisoned, because the homosexual juggernaut refuses to take any prisoners, but seeks to crush anything and anyone in its path.

Back in 2014 I penned a book entitled Dangerous Relations. In it I have a chapter featuring 165 examples of this happening overseas and in Australia. And that was before Australia went with faux marriage. So I warned then, and earlier, about how everything changes when this radical social experiment takes place.

Indeed, back in 2010 I was writing articles on this, seeking – in vain it seems – to alert people as to what was sure to come. Sadly my warnings seemed to have fallen on deaf ears: www.billmuehlenberg.com/2010/12/10/same-sex-marriage-who-says-nothing-will-change/

It is not good to rub these things in people’s faces I suppose, but really: we DID tell you so. We DID warn you. We DID plead with you. We DID tell you this would certainly happen, as surely as night follows day. Yet most people, including most Christians, refused to listen, and just kept their heads in the sand.

Now we are all suffering, and it will continue to get worse. A handful of German Christians had exactly the same problem last century. They warned, they pleaded, they sounded the alarm, but most Germans did NOT want to listen. As one such watchman on the wall, German pastor Martin Niemoller famously put it:

In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Let me slightly rephrase that:

In Australia the rainbow gestapo came first for the culture warriors, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a culture warrior. Then they came for the outspoken Christian leaders, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an outspoken Christian leader. Then they came for the concerned pastors, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a concerned pastor. Then they came for the Christian business owners, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Christian business owner. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

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28 Responses to We Told You So: Fake Marriage Impacts ALL Of Us

  • And God said to Moses: If a man lieth with mankind as he would with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them.”
    We are about to be taught what that means and when it happens, we will also learn what God meant when he said: “if you do not my edicts, I shall turn my face from you.”

    I say, let those who forsake their welfare for the sake of God will be given ten fold and those who try to protect their welfare and deny God will certainly lose it. I wonder who said something like that before me?
    John Abbott

  • Best wishes, Luke and Carla, you have done the right thing in standing up for your Christian values, there a lot of people in support of you, I am one of those people, and i admire you both, but it is in God’s eyes that it matters, He is the one you must obey and you have, praise God.

  • Very true!! All of us as followers of Jesus Christ must speak up now!

  • Same sex couples were already free to have a ceremony to celebrate their love and pledge their lifelong commitment to each other in front of family and friends, they were already free to wear wedding rings as a sign of their lifelong commitment to each other, and they were already free to essentially live their lives as a “married” couple as so to speak (although I am not entirely sure whether there was still a few bits of technical discrimination in some practical matters on the books or whether it was all cleared up – needless to say if some discrimination still was on the books it could presumably be easily fixed without changing marriage). In short, same-sex couples could already freely have their relationship and live their life as they choose.

    This was about, amongst other things, the cultural understanding of marriage – is marriage essentially only about love and lifelong commitment (as important as these are) or does marriage have a deeper nature and serve a deeper purpose for society?

    If marriage is essentially only about love and lifelong commitment, then why not allow three or more people in a group relationship to have their relationship classed as a marriage? Is it because of tradition? Arbitrary convention? Is it because the vast majority of people in relationships are in two person relationships? If it is for a reason such as this, then, on the view that marriage is essentially just about love and lifelong commitment, then all these reasons can be applied with pretty much equal force to argue for marriage being limited to male-female relationships.

    If however marriage is about the inherently complementary nature of men and women and about forming the foundation of the traditional nuclear family, then the reason that marriage is limited to (or now I should say should be limited to) one man – one woman relationships has a solid foundation based on first principles, rather than merely just on tradition (as important and meaningful as tradition for traditions sake can be), arbitrary convention, the fact that most people are in a relationship of a certain type, or some other non-first-principles reason.

    And indeed the scary part is if you are now on the “wrong” side of the cultural understanding of marriage, some people won’t simply take a live and let live, shake hands and agree to disagree approach.

  • Yes quite right Michael.

  • Dear Bill, thank you for highlighting this very important question..

    But what is the answer?

    Can we ever have a law that says advertisers cannot withdraw advertising $$ just because a business supports the traditional view of marriage?

    I’m no Constitutional Law expert but I don’t think that could ever be made the law and I don’t think we should ask for that. I’ve signed a petition to ban the pornographic business Honey Birdette from Westfield’s and I would not want any law saying we can’t do that in the future.

    Here’s an idea, why don’t we look to build businesses on a foundation of serving other Christians?

    The Census says 52.1% of Aussies are Christian so what about asking church leaders to order that church businesses (E.G MaroniteCare, CatholicCare, AngliCare) ONLY advertise with approved Christian publishers like the Burrell’s, or at least give them priority for advertising $$ so we can keep them in business?

    If we just give up and let businesses like White Magazine close without even trying this we just push our fellow Christians into buying wedding magazines full of fake homosexual marriages. And that’s what the homosexuals want!

  • Thanks Michael Taouk. In a free country, advertisers are free to put their advertising dollars where they see fit to put them. I have long said that. But that is not the main issue here. Notice also all the harassment, bullying and intimidation this couple received by the “tolerant” left in general and the militant homosexual activists in particular.

    Moreover, our point all along was that once we radically redefine and thus destroy marriage, then everyone will be impacted. Some of it will come through businesses and corporations that side with the homosexual agenda and against all those recalcitrants who will not bow the knee to it. And when Big Business starts to get monopolistic powers in various areas, then those who will not go along with their radical agendas will be discriminated against and left without access to various goods and services. See my article here for more detail on this: https://billmuehlenberg.com/2017/05/26/big-business-radical-agendas-people-power/

    But worse yet of course is when the coercive state forces people to bow the knee, and I have already documented plenty of cases of this as well.

  • Let me have a go at it, and if you like it publish it:

    In Australia, the rainbow Gestapo came first for the culture warriors, and I didn’t speak up because I was worried about my footy team’s chances in the finals. Then they came for the outspoken Christian leaders, and I didn’t speak up because I was just trying to share the gospel with my friends. Then they came for the concerned pastors, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t even an elder. Then they came for the Christian business owners, and I didn’t speak up because I was on a salary. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

  • Two questions:
    a) how many same-sex relationships will there be displayed in White Marriage now?
    b) why don’t the gaystapo publish their own version of White Magazine?

    I put this article up on FB, but it hasn’t appeared as yet on my feed.

    So I asked these questions on someone else’s report of the same thing.

  • I put this article up on FB, but it hasn’t appeared as yet on my feed.

    So I asked these questions on someone else’s report of the same thing.

    Two questions:
    a) how many same-sex relationships will there be displayed in White Marriage now?
    b) why don’t the gaystapo publish their own version of White Magazine?

  • Many thanks for that John. Yes I have had some other FBers telling me they do not seem to be able to post stuff by me. it really does seem that FB has got me in their sights, and they are out to get me, and prevent anyone else from sharing my stuff. In fact, usually every minute or two a new FB notification appears, letting me know of new posts. But now I am doing well to get one an hour. Censorship much?

    And one person recently told me this: “I keep trying to post to your Facebook page but my Facebook app keeps crashing. Only does it on your page, no one else’s.”

  • Thanks Bill for the clarification.

    BTW I’ve been told by a non-Christian friend who knows someone who works at Honey Birdette that they viewed our petition as “bullying”, “harassment”, and “organized intimidation”. I said hows that possible? My friend said well you are trying to have them kicked out of Westfield’s. I said well I have a right to tell Westfield’s I don’t like it and I will shop somewhere else if they host disgusting businesses like Honey Birdette and there were no threats of violence so it’s not bullying, harassment or intimidation.

    White Magazine is the victim of an organized campaign targeting the advertisers but I didn’t see anywhere that someone threatened to kill or blow up a company if they didn’t pull their advertising $$ from the magazine. I don’t want to be told I intimidated Westfield’s so to be consistent I can’t agree White Magazine was a victim of intimidation against it’s advertisers.

    Sadly they were a victim of people power, but guess what folks – we have more people (52.1%) than they do. We must start using the power we have to survive the next few years.

    Long term yes we have to repeal fake SSM, but I’m not holding my breath as is there a single Liberal or National pollie publicly willing to promise to vote to repeal if re elected? I can’t think of one.

  • Thanks again Michael. Yes, sadly, the two main “conservative” parties are filled with cowards and compromisers. Hardly any of them will do anything substantial on all this.

  • I have just sent a short letter to my Tasmanian politicians (organised through ACL) with my views on the ‘gender free’ birth certificate lunacy.
    A ‘gender-free’ birth certificate?

    A few points to consider the lunacy of the rationality challenged left.

    1.We do not have genders. There are 2 sexes. Intersex is extremely rare and there is only one form of that where the genetic code is indistinct.
    2.A recent study from Israel’s Institute of Science by Professor Shmuel Pietrokovski and Dr Moran Gershoni found 6,500 genes with activity specific to male or female sex.
    3.These differences result in sex specific medical conditions aside from the obvious reproductive ones, eg drugs are processed differently in the liver according to sex. No matter how much a woman wants to ‘identify’ as a man she will still be able to tolerate less alcohol than a biological male.
    4.That this is a mental illness is shown by the increasing number of people who are de-transitioning. See http://www.sexchangeregret.com and https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2016/06/17166/
    5.There are many other serious points to be made for example the increased risk of suicide(20 – 40 times greater) and child abuse when biological males are allowed in women’s change and toilet facilities.
    6.Legal ramifications: A medical practitioner needs to know the sex of their patient as male and females respond differently to medications and treatment. Delay in this knowledge could negatively affect outcome.
    7.Who will be paying the resulting legal bills? Who will be paying for the psychiatric care and the de-transitioning? Who will be paying for cancer treatment for those who have been given hormones natural to the other sex?

    I have absolutely had this avalanche of insanity! I will vote only for those who show backbone and have researched factual evidence.

  • As of the third quarter of 2018, Facebook had 2.27 billion monthly active users… https://www.statista.com/statistics/264810/number-of-monthly-active-facebook-users-worldwide/
    I wonder if half of those “Christians” (maybe 1 billion) closed their FB account how many “hissy fits” we would see from the rainbow warrior crowd, the poor little darlings would melt.
    There are many so called “Christians” who go along with the rainbow warriors so forget about the 52.1%, it just ain’t gunner happen.
    Certainly seems to be becoming a more defined “us & them” society.
    Just wondering…

  • Great article Bill,
    I clearly recall a Price Waterhouse study approx 18 months ago parroting the overwhelming positive business affects SSM would have on the business community .
    I thought at the time the study was riddled with assumptions.
    Now here we had a small business employing approx 4 people with a saleable value approx 2 years ago of I expect $150k to $250k . This once solid business is now worth nothing except for equipment value.
    Great outcome after 12 years of hard work.
    Why would any Hard working Christian wish to risk capital on any wedding related business in Australia whether photography to reception premises when it can be destroyed within a few months ?
    This is disgusting , unAustralian and grossly unfair. Of course no compensation.
    My sympathies to the dear couple. They did nothing wrong.
    I’m appalled,
    Philip

  • It will only get worse. The Left is baying for blood and any Christian endeavour is in their sights.

  • Thanks Bill, I empathise with your frustration of the ignorance of the masses and their closed minds on what’s happening to our culture.
    It was these people whom the LGBTQ referred to years ago at their war cabinet in the US when they declared “they will finally be dragged screaming to the showers, along with their children, crying for their mothers, when they realize they have lost the war”. The spoils of the LGBTQ covert war declared back in the 1980’s were our children.
    Now we have the Marxists trying to destroy our culture as well!
    All that we predicted prior to the “Yes” vote 18 months ago is coming true.
    It was tragic to read this week of the closure of the Christian wedding magazine, White Magazine, and the victimisation and humiliation of Christian wedding photographer Jason Tey in Western Australia.
    Cory Bernadi has recently been refused IT service by a company whose management doesn’t agree with his conservative views. But that’s “OK”?
    Ironically, if the Chinese do to take us over in the next few years, you can be sure they will cleanse our once great country of these toxic people; sadly our politicians seem completely incapable of saving us from either fate.

  • Romans 1:24. “God gave them over.” What a fearful place to be!

  • Hi Bill
    Just been on Andrew Bolt’s blog. Seems there is now an answer to Getup!

    Advanceaustralia.org.au

    Let’s spread the word.

  • Thank you Mark.

    It looks like a “conservative” govt led by a “Christian” PM and a “Christian” Attorney General will be like Pontius Pilate and submit to the mob and remove Section 38.

    If is happens, what can we do? We change PM’s all the time so would it be possible to replace Cuckservative Morrison with a real Conservative like Tony Abbott or Peter Dutton before the next election?

  • So, if I’m a biology teacher how do I teach about the reproduction of the human race via unassissted sexual reproduction?

    Nothing to do with religious instruction.

    First they came….. Then they came for the biology teachers and I was done for,.

  • Simon, don’t you know that biology and reality itself will be verboten by the gender revolutionaries!

  • I’m a Baptist minister’s son whom God delivered from the gay life after 25 years. Marriage is between a man and a woman. God’s Word does NOT support homosexuality. God does NOT make mistakes when it comes to assigning our gender. I debunk the LIES of the “Christian” liberal theologians and their “gay is ok” message in my book FROM QUEER TO CHRIST. Christians must stand up and fight against this insidious agenda and tell the truth in love. http://www.georgecarneal.com

  • Great post George.
    Very much appreciated,
    Phil Browne
    Sydney

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